Bruce Amacker Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Hey Guys; Have any of you installed and flashed a used FICM? I had a P0611 yesterday that turned out to be a bad FICM. Luckily, I was home and have a bunch of them that I've acquired from various sources. I tried a couple brand new ones that were almost the same PN, (1845117C4 when mine was a 1845117C2) but wouldn't start and wouldn't flash, giving me a "failed to program" message. I had 2 that were used DT466 FICM's with the exact same PN, but wouldn't flash and wouldn't start. The only one that started was a used 6.0 FICM with the same PN and almost the same build date (within 4 days). It started right up with the old flash level, and I ended up installing it and shipping the truck after reflashing the FICM to the latest cal. The other ones we plugged in and tried to start just for S&G to see if they were good modules. I have a hard time believing several of the correct PN's were bad from different sources. There must be something weird with the DT466 applications that are the same PN? Or, after they have a DT flash in them, the IDS won't recognize the current program and won't install a new program? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif Yea, I know, put in a new FICM and program it...... Any comments are welcome. Thanks! P.S. Does anybody know what FICM's interchange? I think there's an early and a late, and some of the ones I have are a different PN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 One of our guys managed to score a "known good" tester FICM that hasn't failed to start a truck yet... without any reprogramming AFAIK. My best guess would be to program one of these with "as built" data and see if that makes the difference. If you don't have access to "as built", post a pertinent VIN and someone here should be able to give you the code. Not a real common failure, we have changed several FICMs for various concerns.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwayneGorniak Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I have actually had success doing this Bruce. I had a couple of donors off of complete engines that I snaffued. But what I do before I install them is do a Programmable module intallation. As soon as you install the so called new one and hit tick, the IDS goes through a mudule erase before it reprograms the replacement module. Maybe you have already done this, but hey it worked for me. And I have taken FICM's from other trucks to try them out on a suspect trucks and they have always fired up as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHNO60 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 yup had same deal bruce.p0611 had test ficm,used as built, but had to force it with the 045??? code. works every time as a great test module. just check with parts dept on part numbers. believe theres a cut off on the 2 modules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 But what I do before I install them is do a Programmable module installation. As soon as you install the so called new one and hit tick, the IDS goes through a module erase before it reprograms the replacement module. Maybe you have already done this, but hey it worked for me. Yes, I was doing a Programmable Module installation with IDS, but it would give me an error code on every one I tried except the one used Ford module. Originally Posted By: OHNO60 yup had same deal bruce.p0611 had test ficm, used as built, but had to force it with the 045??? code. works every time as a great test module. just check with parts dept on part numbers. believe there's a cut off on the 2 modules. OK, I'm going to need some tutoring here. How do I program an "as built" code, and what the hell is a 045??? code? VIN is 1FDAF56P44EB15998 Thanks! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHNO60 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I HAVE TO DIG UP MY PAPER WORK LATER FOR YOU,BUT WHAT IS WAS IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME YOU GO INTO UPDATE/SPECIAL FUNCTIONS ON THE IDS AND ENTER 04253 AND CLICK ON THE TICK. FOLLOW THE PROMPS AND IT WILL ASK FOR THE USUAL AS BUILT LINES. ILL GET THE EXACT PRINT LATER TODAY FOR YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Kaylor Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 you should be able to get as built data from the motorcraft website, it is available on the info side with the subscription i believe. the company i bought my IDS off of will give me the data as needed, i just have to call or email them and i get a reply pretty quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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