JAKE_MORSE Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Hey guys, I have an 05 F-350 that has a high press oil leak at the fitting to the HP pump to the branch tubes. Just wondering if there were any steps to make this a little more enjoyable? and also how fast are you guys doing these. A tech in the dealership younder says he can do them in an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Jake... I don't get many of these mundane tasks any more.... that's NOT a "neener" - they have been replaced with much "better" tasks. Last STC fitting I did, I recall being paid at 5.8ish hours. If the guy down the street can do one in an hour, sublet all of yours to him.... He has my BS meter ringing. Turbo and pedestal come off, high pressure oil pump cover just sneaks out and then, of course, we need to make a final air pressure check to be sure of what we are up to... Yes, I know this is a common repair.... And yes, I know further testing might show that we are doing the branch tube, too.... And yes... that one last test might even show us we are in the wrong place.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwayneGorniak Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Just the STC alone in the TSB pays 8 hours and I too call bullshit on the one hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Hey guys, I have an 05 F-350 that has a high press oil leak at the fitting to the HP pump to the branch tubes. Just wondering if there were any steps to make this a little more enjoyable? and also how fast are you guys doing these. A tech in the dealership younder says he can do them in an hour.Another one of those with a mouth. These are the kind of assholes that open it in the wrong places to the wrong people, and get all our times dropped. I will gladly admit to making some gain time on some TSBs, but THIS one definitely isn't one of them!!! At 23.8 hrs. under the TSB for an E-series on the last one I did, there were OTHER issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Well.... I know I used to get paid 5.8 for something..... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif Eight hours, IIRC, would give a smooth working tech a bit of gain time as long as nothing went sideways. I try to keep up on what TSBs, FSAs, SSMs and those curious little broadcast messages that sound important but never make it in to the real world (read that as "searchable"). And that has just started a new thread in "Tools, Computers and the Internet...". See ya there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Jake I am not too sure there are many tricks when doing this repair. The ones my coworkers have employed cost us in in repairing the effects of bad practices... bending y-pipes is the worst of the offenses. I have spoken of Mr.Know-it-all, my soon to be ex-tech, who just spent three extra days on a SCT fitting repair because of a missed oil rail plug seal failure. The key is to fix the truck. Being methodical will help prevent the job from dragging on and losing time from getting lost. An hour for an STC fitting? I would question the mans word and the integrity of his work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAKE_MORSE Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 I sure hope you were aimming those comments at the other tech that I mentioned and not myself. I was merly asking a question in hopes of getting some technical support from my fellow diesel enthusists. If I'm not mistaken, Ford can't gain access to these forums without being checked out by Keith first to see if indeed they are who they say they are. Maybe I am taking this the wrong way, and if so I am sorry. Thanks for the responses guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Ford can't gain access to these forums without being checked out by Keith first to see if indeed they are who they say they are. If you read THIS POST and stop for a moment to think about what it says you will hopefully come to the conclusion that there are people from Ford Motor Company whom have joined us here. Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAKE_MORSE Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 My mistake Keith. I guess I should be more careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 No problem on my end. Personally, I don't think we need to be directing our frustrations in an angry manner. A polite private message would be ideal for such discussions about. I also don't think that the sharing of a few tips and pointers on making a job more efficient is going to have any effect on labor times no matter who you think is looking on here. There is a proper procedure for everything and these procedures are printed in black and white in the service manuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I sure hope you were aimming those comments at the other tech that I mentioned and not myself. I was merly asking a question in hopes of getting some technical support from my fellow diesel enthusists. If I'm not mistaken, Ford can't gain access to these forums without being checked out by Keith first to see if indeed they are who they say they are. Maybe I am taking this the wrong way, and if so I am sorry. Thanks for the responses guys.No it wasn't directed toward you. I've already BTDT on my share of 6.0L HP oil system diagnostic repairs a few times myself, and I don't think it is physically possible to have everything done in ONE hour no matter how efficient you are. Now, back to the purpose of your orignal post, the turbo, intake and EGR cooler all have to be removed, as you are probably well aware by now. Are you replacing the branch tube as well, or just the STC fitting with the update bracket? If just the fitting and bracket, you're already there. If you are replacing the branch tube, you'll need to remove both VC, the transmission, and the rear engine cover to access. Never done one on an F-series my self yet, so I couldn't tell you if it was easy or not. I know the one I replaced on an E-series cubevan was horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwayneGorniak Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Don't worry Jake, I was calling bull on the bull shitter that told you he can do it in an hour. And I would say just do it the right way and let the other guy lose his job over faulty workmanship. Oh and by the way, I don't know of any tricks that would not compromise quality. So just go for quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselD Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 branch tubes suck no matter how you put it. I dont really thing there are any short cuts on those stupid things. I would hope super tech was refering to is hour repair for an stc. thats pushing it a little but I do know I can have one done in maybe about 2 if my tools are out, can find the leak and verify rather quickly. Most are not that obvious however and I take my time to get it right but they are really gravy to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAKE_MORSE Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 Thanks fellas. gut the truck all buttoned up this afternoon. It was a bit of a fight at first trying to slip the HP pump cover out but I finally got it. Not a really bad job, but I could think of better things to do. P.S, Thanks to Jeff (good diesel guy) for the tips over the phone. They really helped alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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