kevin phillips Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 have a 94.5 powerstroke with eec 4 on it and a eec 5 connector but it won't work the eec 4 works but no data selection is there anybody that remembers how to make the eec 5 port work for pid data it's stalling at times and i would like to see some pid data thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster42 Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Ok I haven`t tried it with IDS yet,and i`m not sure that it is still supported in IDS, but here is how it worked when I did them with WDS. 1- check to make sure dlc has 12v at pin #?(I forget now)quickest way is to make sure cig lighter works as it shares power fuse w/dlc. 2- hook up to dlc and let it try and communicate w/pcm it will fail and then ask you to if you wish to pick from a list. Pick "other" 3- It will then bring you to a screen to enter calibration or tear tag. Enter ALF4 in tear tag ( that is a 1995 manual trans tear tag code, which should be what you have as in late 94MY only manual trans were behind a 7.3) 4- IF it lets you in, then pick pcm programming and let it do its thing. After done the dlc will be active and pids available. **this will work with a wds, but I have some doubts if the IDS will do it,but worth a shot. They run ALOT better after doing reprogram, cust will notice more power right away... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 WOW! I thought that all of those would have been converted long ago! The early trucks had both connectors because when they were built EEC-5 was just coming out. As a matter of fact I think that at the time the only EEC-5 vehicle Ford had was the just released new model called the Windstar... ooooooh! My thinking was that the Power Stroke had been in development for some time as an EEC-4 vehicle it wasn't feasible to change it before production but perhaps they were able to wire it up with the DLC. Long story short, the first trucks could be reprogrammed to EEC-5 using SBDS after which the EEC-4 connector under the hood became useless. The new program included improved diagnostics and PID information available through the DLC. Ricksters idea should work but I have never run into this situation. I still had a working SBDS when any of these first trucks came in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 I did a little digging and found the original TSB for this. If you are going to attempt this with IDS let us know how you make out with it! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif tsb03-21-10.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin phillips Posted November 4, 2007 Author Share Posted November 4, 2007 thanks guys will try with ids monday our wds is shot and sbds has been broken for awhile now so i hope ids works i will let you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin phillips Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 it worked using ids after putting in the tear tag info and looking through a list a mile long of mavricks,fairlanes and other old model car names to choose from anyway i chose all others and put in the tear tag above and it reflashed the pcm and it worked thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastendpowerstroke Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 WOW! I thought that all of those would have been converted long ago!The sad thing about learning that IDS will work is that the only truck the wasn't done 10+ years ago has now thanks to Kevin been updated and nobody else will never need this info again. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thumbup.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHNO60 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 WOW BRINGS BACK SHARP PAINS. WE HAD A SERVICE TRUCK WITH THE SAME SENERIO.94.5 EEC4. WE HAD A TEST ECM FOR 95 TRUCK AND JUST SWAPPED IT AS NEEDED AND USED THE EEC5 CONNECTOR.THAT WAS BEFORE THE TSB KEITH POSTED. I HAVENT HAD THE PLEASURE OF UPDATING A CAL ON THOSE YET FOR THAT ISSUE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster42 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 your welcome. Glad I could help.You also helped me by trying it with IDS and reporting that IDS will do it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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