jbarnett31 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 i have my master certification in drivetrain and chassis. i only like the ase test for engine master. i was just wondering if it is more beneificial to me to go the diesel repair route. and i was also wondering how hard the t2 t6 and l2 test are and if i need to study up on all diesel engines, like detroit, cummin, and cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I was also wondering how hard the t2 t6 and l2 test are and if I need to study up on all diesel engines, like Detroit, Cummins, and Cat I have participated writing ASE test questions several times, with the latest workshop being the T2 in October. About 90% of the test questions are generic in nature, but there are a few questions still being used that are specific to an engine series, such as Cummins PT systems. We did write DPF questions this time around, and we are trying to eliminate all mechanical injection questions (like PT!) since these systems are at least 12-14 years old right now. These updates may, or may not make the spring testing session. There was big debate regarding EBP device questions, as they only apply to one MD engine (T444E), so I'm not sure if they will be on the test or not. (if so, it would only be one question anyway) Whether to include HEUI questions was also debated, but HEUI is used on a lot of MD engines so I think they will stay on the test. Keep in mind that the T1-T8 DO NOT cover LD trucks which is probably what you service the most of. The L2 is a challenging test. Make sure you are really good at schematic interpretation, problem solving, and common sense, because that's what the L2 is all about. It is like diagnosing dozens of sick trucks. Go to the ASE website and make use of all the resources they have available, as they've put a lot of effort into helping you. http://asecert.org/ Check with your local community college and see if they have any ASE refresher classes available just before the testing session. Even an A6 automotive refresher will help dramatically. Purchasing study guides and reading them religiously will help, also. When you buy a study guide, pay attention to the Task List in the beginning, as it will outline what the questions will cover. If you are a PC geek like most of us, you may prefer the PC based tests which are given in the summer. I took all of my truck tests this way last summer, and I prefer it. You also get your results immediately. The drawback is there are only a few hundred test centers for PC based tests nationwide. Good Luck! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thumbup.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 If getting to the Ford classrooms is a chore for your dealer and yourself, then I would take the diesel route. It cuts out like 4 classrooms and you can get your senior master much quicker. As far as L2 goes I have found that if you take the composite vehicle test first it will answer or make sense of alot of the questions on the written test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysonfordtech Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 T2 and T6 are not bad. I only work in the light duty world f150-550. I got the study guides for t2 and t6 and passed with ease, but it did make me try to remember all the crap I learned about heavy trucks while at UTI. To be honest the L2 was the only ASE I have ever walked out of wondering if I passed. At the time I took it no company produced study guides. I remember a bunch of crap on fuel systems that I had not laid eyes after leaving UTI in 1998. Some of the crap was so outdated, I expected to see some questions on 2 stroke detroit motors! I ended up passing with like 88%. I would just get the study guides for all three tests, and you should be fine. Also be ready to look at wiring diagrams that are much different than the ford ones we are use to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbarnett31 Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 hey i appreciate all of the help. I was debating on going the gas or diesel route. I feel like i have a better chance with the diesel test. I will get me some study guides and read up on everything. Thanks for all the help. I have only been working on diesels for about 3 years now but belive it or not i really like workin on them alot better than gas burners. I think im gonna sign up next time around. Wish me luck and thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony302600 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Personally I hate ASE's because they are soo biased to GM IMO /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveS Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Purchasing study guides and reading them religiously will help, also. Can you make a recommendation? Our shop has some study guides that are a few years old. If I can get the shop to but new ones or if I buy them myself (maybe a co-worker co-op?) I'd rather get something that is current and worthwhile. TIA Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Can you make a recommendation? We use the Motor Age guides when we teach a refresher class, I think they're pretty good. Anthony just did T3 and T4 classes last month with them. The class reviews were excellent, but that's more Anthony than the books. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif https://passthease.search-autoparts.com/MediumHeavy-Truck/Default.aspx?p=3&cid=10 Buy them, and keep them in the "library". It's not reading them once that will get you to pass, it's reading them over and over. Good Luck! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif PS: Here's your clue to start working on the boss. I just booked WSAFC for Sep 8-12, 7.3/6.0 PSD 24 hours DT diagnostic update 8 hours. 8 months to work on him, see you there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveS Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 We use the Motor Age guides when we teach a refresher class, I think they're pretty good. Thanks! I'll check them out. Originally Posted By: Bruce Amacker 8 months to work on him, see you there!If I get started now maybe I can make it happen this year! Thanks Bruce! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Kaylor Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 the T2 is a rather easy test, if you have worked on most lines of diesels and have a basic understanding on the systems. a couple of guys i know that only worked on 2 strokes struggled, but did fairly well. the L2 test, in my opinion, was difficult, but it got my brain working. i left with a smile on my face, simply because i had not had a good brain workout that day (and i was going to the bar, but thats not the MAIN reason i was smiling /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif ) of all i have taken, the L2 was likely the hardest one i took. aside from the service consultant one, but that was because i was resisting the temptation to put in answers i felt were needed, not what was politically correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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