DamageINC Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 So I've never done this before in this fashion, but I decided to try something a little different. I've got a '99 GT in the shop, came in locked up / no oil, needs an engine. Just because it's kinda slow here and I'm not trying to break and speed records or anything, I figured I'd go a different route than the "out the hood" method with this one, don't care if it kicks my ass or not.... And holy shit, is it easy this way. Left the engine bolted to the K-member, trans still attached, and just dropped the whole K-member (wheels still on, suspension intact with struts unbolted from towers, calipers hanging from body) out of the car instead. I was *taking my time* with this because I didn't wanna destroy anything in the process, and when it was all said and done, I have the engine sitting in the K-member, but completely out of the vehicle in less than 1.5 hours. Get this down to a procedure, something you can do without "thinking" about it, and you can honestly have this thing out in under an hour, I'd bet. Honestly, if I remember correctly, there are a couple power steering/booster hoses to disconnect, 2 a/c lines to disconnect, remove the battery & tray, 3 or 4 electrical connectors and a ground on the LF fender, 3 connectors at the right side firewall, unbolt steering shaft, pull clutch cable out, unbolt exhaust from the mufflers, pull the front sway bar, upper/lower radiator hose, and pull the drive shaft. Unbolt the calipers, unplug the ABS sensors, lower the car down so the weight's on the front tires, unbolt the struts from up top, and the 8 K-member bolts, and then up comes the car and the engine's right there. *VERY* fast. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Look at that Diesel guy's figured out a better way to work on gasser's. Very cool!!! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thumbup.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastendpowerstroke Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I do most all FWD cars and the escape like that. The mustang with a 5spd can be easy from the bottom but with an auto it's about 50/50. if you do an auto from the bottom don't forget the torque converter nuts before you drop it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Love it!!! Work smart not hard!!! Words to live by!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. Bedford Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I have done super charged T-Birds in the past this way. Works very well. Just make sure you have the larger sized inverted torx bits (E18/E20?) for the K-frame bolts. I once lifted the body on a Crown Vic to do an engine job and it took awhile. Sure did learn alot about other system mountings and wire/hydralic routings that came in handy down the line. So, it was not a total loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlep Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I've done a few oil pans on these things and one look at that K member and one look at the WSM was all it took to yank that baby right outta the way, think I had the pan done and everything back together in a little under 3 hours /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I've got an '08 Escape waiting for parts that didn't make it to its first oil change without wearing out bank #2 exhaust cam so bad that there's at least 1/8th" of clearance between the cam bearing surfaces and the head. When I drained the oil, only less than 2 litres came out, discoloured and burnt. The excessive wear caused oil to past the seal where the pulley that drives the water pump is situated. Ford denied my request to replace the long block. Instead, they are telling to replace only bank #2 cylinder head. Me thinks the customer is just going to LOVE that. I too, will be dropping the powertrain/subframe as an assembly to carry out the repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff_E Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Like This... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 YUP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I like that jack! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thumbup.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastendpowerstroke Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I like that jack! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thumbup.gif I got that jack too it's great I cant belive you guys don't, go rumage around the car shops tool area and steal it from them. econoline side tanks full aft axle tanks no problem.As a plus it gets about 6-6 1/2 feet high and drops to about 2 1/2 feet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 6-6 1/2 feet high and drops to about 2 1/2 feet Really?! I must research the price of such jack, it looks like an OTC with a Rotunda sticker on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff_E Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I'll see if there's a model number on it when I go back to work on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: eastendpowerstroke 6-6 1/2 feet high and drops to about 2 1/2 feet Really?! I must research the price of such jack, it looks like an OTC with a Rotunda sticker on it. The part number is 014-00765 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastendpowerstroke Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 POWERTRAIN LIFT WITH TILTING PLATE ES ROT#S: 014-00765 Features: Built to handle 1,250 lbs. Connect the specially modified air/hydraulic pump with a special valve to your shop’s air supply. Tilting plate adjusts 22 degrees front to back and 17.50 degrees to each side. Width between the 4 x 4 wooden support blocks is adjustable from 0 — 29". OTC 1585 Price: $1,729.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff_E Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Here is a site with some other options but it doesn't show prices. norcoindustries.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Thanx guys! That was informative info and I also added Norco to the directory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 When I had my own shop, I had one similar to this.... It had two interchangeable "heads"... one was an engine crane, the other much like the pic - transmissions, complete diffs... this thing was handy... Can't remember the brand but it was Canadian built and purchased from Acklands before Grainger got in to the picture... (circa 1990). At that time a trans jack was $700ish CAD and a crane was $500ish CAD... this came in well under a G-note... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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