Keith Browning Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Is an ECM core worth anything? I have one from a 2008 that works... with a bad driveability concern. Ford shoved the entire claim up our asses because we didn't get approval from RTDA on a PCM FORD TOLD US TO INSTALL!!! I was told to chuck it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysonfordtech Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Man keith I am glad we are not the only ones that are having to jump through the hoops for RTDA. What parts do you guys have to get approval for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 Modules, throttle bodies... ironically, PCM's are now off our list which is actually smaller than it has been in the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastendpowerstroke Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 OK I'm to lazy to go look, Whats RTDA??? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 I'm just guessing here but it's funny anyways, we used it at the dealer. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/hahaha.gifRTDA Return To Dumb Ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted March 15, 2008 Author Share Posted March 15, 2008 I went looking for the definitive answer on FMC Dealer and of course I could not find an exact description. So I'll take a shot at explaining the best I can: RTDA stands for "Real Time Diagnostic Assistance" which is a dealer specific prior approval program based on warranty numbers indicating abnormalities. Each dealer participating (I love how they make it sound like you are volunteering for something fun or useful) will be in for a specific group or groups of repairs like engines, transmissions, modules etc.. My dealer has been on this for modules since I can remember. Basically, if I diagnose a truck as needing an airbag module for example, I then have sit down and fill out a worksheet, call the RTDA number and talk to this guy on the other end. You exchange vehicle and repair order info and describe the concern, diagnostic steps and part required to fix the truck. After that you usually get an approval code which has to be entered with the claim in order to get paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 That's as bad as Cummins Rapidserve, you have to call them for approval for just about everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastendpowerstroke Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 AHH OK I didn't know. My shop has been a level 1 for so long I never heard of RTDA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I recently had a 5R110 woth the reverse one way clutch bound up... Some pieces came out of it and scored the reverse planetary carrier where the fibres sit... Half way in to the job, I saw another thread about guys needing prior approval to wipe their @sses and checked... sure as sh!t, I needed prior approval... Another 5R110, the boss screwed up his approval application on replacing a trans that hotline told us top replace (a trans that fit the water in fluid TSB)... Ford paid us what they felt it would have taken to overhaul the trans... we barely broke even on that puppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Is an ECM core worth anything? I have one from a 2008 that works... with a bad driveability concern. Ford shoved the entire claim up our asses because we didn't get approval from RTDA on a PCM FORD TOLD US TO INSTALL!!! I was told to chuck it. Look at it this way... at least you have a know good tester.... as long as you don't get screwed up by a VIN mismatch or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted March 17, 2008 Author Share Posted March 17, 2008 Look at it this way... at least you have a know good tester.... as long as you don't get screwed up by a VIN mismatch or something... These things are not plug and play. I tried swapping modules with a stock unit just to play around with. The truck would not start and I did not want to use the programmable module installation but I cant remember why. I am sure the module could be programmed for another truck for "testing purposes" but the thing will develop some real funky problems. It would be a really sick prank to pull on somebody though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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