Jim Warman Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Topic should explain it... and, sorry guys, I forgot to get the year... This is an F650 and I have no idea how we wound up with this old "gem"... We aren't a medium duty dealer BUT.... everyone seems to think that this 6.0 is the same as any PSD.... Anyway, truck runs like a bag of crap cold... so I am told. Sales dept. has seen the wonder of the inductive heating flash. The question... Does Navistar have this sort of a FICM strategy? Will a reflash help some of this funky stuff or should I be looking at something else? I'm not about to recommend paying to activate the MD software for just one truck and I need to know if this is something a reflash might address or if there is something I can do with inadequate equipment before I ship it to a MD dealer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Jim, as far as it being the same, it is, but it isn't. I wont get into the details but the most significant detail confronting you is as you stated the electronic engine control and the equipment used to diagnose it. The engine itself is pretty much susceptible to many of the things we encounter in the pick-ups though I suspect not nearly at as much. I have used the inductive heating update on a couple LCF's and one F650 with relative success. The F650 is now back needing an injector. When you work on one of these you really get a sense of just how we have got it with IDS and the tools Ford gives us. I am not aware of having to be a MD dealer to use the software but if you don't even have the cable and adapter you are kinda screwed. The software now requires a "key" that you have to fill out a form to get and you will need to call the Ford Hot Line to get a user name and password to access NETS, the source for reflash calibrations VIA the Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 The question... Does Navistar have this sort of a FICM strategy? Yes, very similar calibration changes that Ford has in this engine. Will a reflash help some of this funky stuff or should I be looking at something else? Just like an F model, yes and yes. The VT has the same injector failures the 6.0 has. (obviously) I'm not about to recommend paying to activate the MD software for just one truck and I need to know if this is something a reflash might address or if there is something I can do with inadequate equipment before I ship it to a MD dealer? Without MDF, you're pretty stuck. Are there enough MD trucks in your neighborhood to justify the expense of activating MDF? Run it by the management and see what they say. Otherwise, ship it to an MD dealer. Send it down here, I'll look at it for free. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 Thanks, guys. I just spent $840 on two VCM subscriptions... more scan tool paraphernalia is out of the question (especially for the only MD truck we'll probably ever see). "Day off" is a term that I don't think I'm allowed to use... so a trip to Bruces shop might be asking a bit much... This is one I will gladly punt.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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