snw blue by you Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Has anyone done this? I've got injectors to replace on both banks, pulled plenty of F-seies but never a van. BTW, what the hell were these dumfucks thinking by moving us another 1.5 ft away from this disaster? Not only is it still cramped but now ya gotta' stretch to reach anything. Any help is appreciated! Thanks, Stephen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Stephen, the even is easier than 2007 and older Super Duty's in my opinion. I have three under my belt. You need to remember that it is more like an Excursion if you have ever done one, meaning you have to disconnect the fuel filler and look for other body connections from underneath. If I recall, there were a few things that were "sneaky" to me. Twice I snapped the braided ground at the right rear of the engine, there used to be a ground hidden under the bracket for the Power Distribution box. Other than that, disconnect the same stuff and once you get the body off you can see just how little room there really is! I think I have pictures too. Of course, this all goes out the window if there were any major changes in the 2008 Econoline... other than the extended nose. I agree, that sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Quote: BTW, what the hell were these dumfucks thinking by moving us another 1.5 ft away from this disaster? Not only is it still cramped but now ya gotta' stretch to reach anything I agree whole heartedly on that one. Just repaired a no start that was a loose ground under the hood. I felt like I was a mile away from the engine. Never had the body off one of these or considered it. Took a body off an Expedition once and hated every minute of it, could of done the engine repair much quicker in chassis in that specific case. I guess if the body is stock with no mods it could give you some piece of mind, thats if you don't want to remove the motor mount and valve covers in chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastendpowerstroke Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 I'm with Keith on this, when they build truck/vans the engine's assembled without the truck then the body goes on after the engine is in the chassis, If I need to do major repair work I will do it the same way Quote: Took a body off an Expedition once and hated every minute of it, could of done the engine repair much quicker in chassis in that specific case. I wouldn't take an expedition body off for much as most anything can be done with it on, but heads on a 32 valve Navigator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Personally, I think removing the body to replace fuel injectors is a bit excessive. I have not done too much snooping around the engine compartment of a 2008, but all previous model years were pretty simple to do... just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snw blue by you Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 I don't know about you but at 44 this shit isn't get any easier. I like to work like a human being not a circus side show freak but hey if you think jerking the motor around and streching arms and legs and working in cramped spaces that you can't really see is ok, more power to ya. This is a cargo van, has nothing in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Quote: This is a cargo van, has nothing in it. That makes lifting an attractive option. I do recommend warming the body bolts like we do with the 2008 trucks only you have to warm up the tip from underneath. Otherwise the mount flexes and absorbs the torque and just laughs at you as you try to remove the bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Just curious, how do you separate the body from the box on cutaways? What actually happens when all fasteners are removed, including the fasteners that secure the cab to the box? Will it actually separate without damage to either, or is there further work needed to break the seal between the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Mike, I personally wouldn't get involved in that type of cab removal but depending on the configuration of the body and the attachment it can be done. Obviously busses and ambulances or any body that hangs over the cab wont allow cab removal I know there is an earlier topic on this but these pictures were posted by muttstang and pretty much explain your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snw blue by you Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 Alex please excuse me if I came off bitchy, that was not my intent. That being said, the body is off, and like doing anything for the first time it was a litle time consuming, however, I am now smiling while removing the injectors (all 8) and I will go home this evening without pains in my back or ripped open skin. It also allows me to do a thourough examination of the electrical system as even though the harness and FICM seems to past muster, no one can explain why 1,3,5,2,6,and,8 have failed electrically on a truck with less than 3K miles. I will post pics tomorrow. Thanks Keith and the rest of our community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Alex please excuse me if I came off bitchy, that was not my intent. Didn't come across that way at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snw blue by you Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Here are pics of the body off. I would do this again without hesitation as long as the hardware is accessible. After doing numerous school buses and box trucks this was a cake walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Looks good. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thumbup.gif Now would be good time to undercoat the ol girl! On edit: Just curious what was wrong with this unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastendpowerstroke Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 no one can explain why 1,3,5,2,6,and,8 have failed electrically on a truck with less than 3K miles.If you find the top broken off/blown apart on the injectors I would pull the sending unit out and take a look see into the tank and change the fuel filters I'll bet it got filled with some nasty stuff.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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