Brad Clayton Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Just when you think they have figured out how to build a 6.0l, they come out with this. Jeeez! Quote: Printable View (126 KB) TSB 08-8-3 6.0L VEHICLES BUILT 11/1/2007 - 1/15/2008 - RUNS ROUGH, MISS, STUMBLE/FLUTTER BETWEEN 1500-4000 RPM - BROKEN CRANKCASE-TO-HEAD TUBES Publication Date: April 4, 2008 FORD: 2008 E-350, E-450 ISSUE: Some 2008 E-Series 6.0L vehicles built from 11/1/2007 through 1/15/2008 may exhibit an engine condition of runs rough, miss, stumble or flutter between 1500 to 4000 RPM due to broken crankcase-to-head tubes. ACTION: Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition. SERVICE PROCEDURE Verify Condition With the engine at normal operating temperature, idle engine for 5 minutes. Increase RPM slowly until wide-open-throttle is reached, release throttle and let the engine return to idle. Check for any engine miss, stumble or flutter while holding engine RPM between 1500 and 4000 RPM. If any miss, stumble or flutter is verified using the above procedure, replace both crankcase-to-head (Stand Pipes) tubes using the procedure below. Crankcase To Cylinder Head Tubes (Stand Pipes) Replacement Remove right hand (RH) and left hand (LH) valve covers. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-01C. Loosen the RH crankcase-to-head tube. (Figure 1) Figure 1 - Article 08-8-3 Position the crankcase-to-head tube, separate the tube and allow the lower section to go back down. (Figure 2) Figure 2 - Article 08-8-3 NOTE: DO NOT REMOVE THE OIL RAIL END PLUGS OR ACOUSTIC WAVE ATTENUATOR PORT FITTING. SERVICE PARTS ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THESE COMPONENTS. Remove the bolts and the RH high-pressure oil rail. (Figure 3) Figure 3 - Article 08-8-3 NOTE: USE A SHOP TOWEL AND METAL BRAKE PARTS CLEANER TO REMOVE THE OIL RESIDUE PRIOR TO REMOVING THE CRANKCASE-TO-HEAD TUBE USING THE SPECIAL TOOL 303-1164. NOTE: IF THE STAND PIPE IS BROKEN THE SPECIAL TOOL WILL NOT WORK. THE LOWER SECTION OF THE STAND PIPE WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED USING CHANNEL LOCKS OR EQUIVALENT. Remove the lower crankcase to head tube. NOTE: APPLY CLEAN ENGINE OIL TO THE CRANKCASE TO HEAD TUBE D-RING SEALS, PRIOR TO INSTALLING. Separate the new crankcase to head tube and position the lower section of the crankcase to head tube in the engine CAUTION: USING THE BOLTS TO PUSH THE HIGH PRESSURE OIL RAIL INTO THE FUEL INJECTORS CAN DAMAGE THE FUEL INJECTORS AND HIGH PRESSURE OIL RAIL(S). Position the high-pressure oil rail(s) on the injectors. Place the high-pressure oil rail(s) on top of the carrier so that the four (4) single ball tubes are engaging the fuel injector lead angle. Insert three (3) guide bolts, two (2) on the ends of the straight side of the high-pressure oil rail and one (1) in the middle of the wavy side of the high-pressure rail. Install the guide studs 6 to 7 turns. Manually press the high-pressure oil rail into the fuel injectors. Inspect that the high-pressure oil rail mounting feet are flat against the mounting surface. Loosely install the six (6) bolts. (Figure 3) Remove the three (3) guide bolts, install the remaining bolts and tighten the nine (9) bolts in the sequence shown. Tighten to 10 lb-ft (13 N-m). (Figure 4) Figure 4 - Article 08-8-3 Apply clean engine oil and reassemble the crankcase-to-head tube. Install the upper crankcase-to-head tube. Tighten to 60 lb-ft (82 N-m). Repeat the crankcase to cylinder head tube procedure on the left bank of the engine. Install RH and LH Valve Covers Refer to WSM, Section 303-01C. PART NUMBER PART NAME 5C3Z-9A332-A Tube - Fuel Supply WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part. OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME 080803A 2008 Econoline 350/450 6.0L Built From 11/1/2007 to 1/15/2008: Replace Both Crankcase-To-Head Tubes (Stand Pipes), Includes Time To Perform Diagnosis In This Article (Do Not Use With 9332A, 6584A, 8616A, 8620F, 8005A) 6.9 Hrs. DEALER CODING BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE 9A332 01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snw blue by you Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Remember the old poster of the Town Car and SBDS/NGS that said "It's not rocket science but it's close" Well apparently making stand pipes etc IS rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHNO60 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Dam they make it sound so easy on paper! Any of you guys see this on an 08 yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin phillips Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 did they revise the tubes on the 08 or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Revise or re-engineer???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_R Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 The 08 6.4 does not have a high press oil system. This is for the E series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony302600 Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/puke.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin phillips Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 sometimes i wish the 6.4 was in the vans lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 sometimes i wish the 6.4 was in the vans lol You're not right. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/icon_crazy.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony302600 Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 +1 on that statement /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/icon_crazy.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/boink3.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 +1 /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/puke.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/puke.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/puke.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/puke.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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