Keith Browning Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Okay, I have read in a few different un-official places that there is a replacement for the 6.0 coming say around 2006/07? Mentioned displacemnts of 6.4L and 6.7L and twin turbo's? Anybody hear of this and what do you know? I've got to remember to ask the next time I call the Hot Line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 One of our techs just came back from school. We hear 6.8 liters, twin turbos and somewhere around 07 for a release date. Rumour has it that pilot injection will be back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snw blue by you Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 From the horses mouth [Navistar] 6.4L w/ twin turbos, and a release date of '06. No other details, other than it won't be like the 6.0 PSD. This could be good or bad thing. I was also told Ford has decided to pass on the 4.5L for the F-150, and is trying to develop their own power plant. Perhaps they just want to see how it will work out in the LCF first? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted March 25, 2005 Author Share Posted March 25, 2005 A "little bird" has informed me that the 6.0L replacement is indeed a 6.4 twin turbo that is built by Navistar and the short block appears to be based on the 6.0. Say goodbye to HEUI. The upper half looks totally different and described as much worse than the 6.0. Development is reportedly on schedule for the '07 model year. We can expect to see a mild power increase with hopefully increased reliability. Quote: If you think the 6.0 is packed in tight this 6.4 will make it look like a dream come true. I'll bet it only takes them one and a half model years to figure out how to shove this one in an Econoline! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/hammer2.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 Keith... I'm gettin' old and I'm likely not the sharpest pencil in the box... what on earth could they come up with to replace the HEUI without actually making the move to 42 volts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted March 25, 2005 Author Share Posted March 25, 2005 Jim, I haven't the faintest idea but when I eventually have to add a forum here for this engine I will bet it's gonna get real busy real quick! I am sure that as time goes on that more details will come to light. If Ford has their way, we won't know much until the damn thing hits the street. Heck, I still have yet to see the 6.0L in a classroom environment! Now it would be a waste of time for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 I did the one day familiarization course and about all I really learned is that it is easier to do repairs with the motor on a stand.... I will say that it helped build confidence when delving into new areas...... like oil coolers..... #3 is coming apart as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snw blue by you Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Just slightly more info. Injection is going to be common rail with something between an IDI and HEUI injector w/ rail pressures around 30,000 psi,and a fuel cooler. Relocated EGR feed to lower temps, and two cats. also the turbos will be fixed displacement, can't remember if that was mentioned /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/poke.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Lakin Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 So similar to the Cummins injection then? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snw blue by you Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 I am not really familiar with the Cummins, so I can't say. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Lakin Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Here is my "I can't get sh*t out of anyone I know" post. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/banghead.gif I bleeped the names out to protect the innocent. Does look like we might hear something "Offical" in April though... Dale FYI Alan Blue Diamond Parts, LLC A Ford Motor Company/International Truck and Engine Corp. Joint Venture CellL 20/-///-5/** Fax: 812-8//-1/// EMail: alan./////@/////.com -----Original Message----- From: D////, Shannon M [mailto:Shannon.////@Nav-International.com] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:32 PM To: alan.richa///@**1.com Subject: RE: New Engine platform Alan, we are not to give out any information on the new engine until mid-April. Please hold off your dealers until then. Shannon -----Original Message----- From: Alan R//// [mailto/////////////////ex21.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:45 PM To: ///k, Shannon M Subject: New Engine platform Shannon: I have been asked by one of my dealers about what was going on with a new engine that International is developing for Ford the 6.4, can you give any insight? Alan Blue Diamond Parts, LLC A Ford Motor Company/International Truck and Engine Corp. Joint Venture CellL *-*10-5115 Fax: 812-**2-1**3 EMail: a*.r////@*21.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted March 29, 2005 Author Share Posted March 29, 2005 Quote: Injection is going to be common rail with something between an IDI and HEUIinjector w/ rail pressures around 30,000 psi,and a fuel cooler. Quote: ... what on earth could they come up with to replace the HEUI without actually making the move to 42 volts? Let us not forget that diesel engines are all about pressure. We know about injection needing high pressures for good atomization and fuel quantity so if I were to base MY guess the new system if what I am hearing is true, will eliminate some of the typical actions in the injection process that we are used to. If fuel can be pressurized to the high pintle opening pressures we see in modern engines, that would enable the removal of oil and mechanical methods of raising injection pressures at the injector. This might be key in the science of fuel rate, timing and combustion shaping. If the only thing an injector has to do is open a fuel valve, then the injection process has just become about as simple as you can make it for a computer controlled system. I would guess that will allow for fuel injection capabilities like no other system.This is my best guess and opinion! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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