robp823 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Doing my fist head gasket job and i heard pulling the cab makes life way easier and its quicker. Is this true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Mutter Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 short answer yes,even in the new model training for the 6.4 Ford talks about the benefits to the cab lift and why they did it that way,but if you have to do a super duty in chassis it is not the end of the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Cab off is the best and ONLY way to go for me if I'm pulling heads or the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Different strokes for different folks I see... I don't remove the cab to replace headgaskets, and still do them in under a day. I'm sure it's harder on the back to do it cab on, but still don't find cab removal necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony302600 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Different strokes for different folks I see... I don't remove the cab to replace headgaskets, and still do them in under a day. I'm sure it's harder on the back to do it cab on, but still don't find cab removal necessary. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/icon_crazy.gif LoL, lift the cab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktmlew Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Different strokes for different folks I see... I don't remove the cab to replace headgaskets, and still do them in under a day. I'm sure it's harder on the back to do it cab on, but still don't find cab removal necessary. ...and you are HOW old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Shit guys, you can do EVERY 6.0 repair in chassis. Hell, there's a guy on the Ford site that does BEDPLATE GASKETS in chassis. He even posted about it! Alex knows what I'm talking about.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Quote: BEDPLATE GASKETS in chassis. Jack ASS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Quote: Thomas Cook B7191 DAVE LANDON MOTORS LTD PORT HARDY , BC posted Aug 06, 2008 2:40AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I do them in the vehicle by lifting the engine and stuffing a 2X4 under each engine mount, gives enough room to drop the pan and everything else. Cut the CAC hoses loose and pull the rad. Robaxacet is good for the twisted back after torquing the mains. I use a ratchet strap on either end of the crank to keep it from dropping. I'm sure others have good info for you. Alex Bruene B1342 DONWAY FORD SALES LTD SCARBOROUGH , ON posted Aug 06, 2008 7:26AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nice... really nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 ...and you are HOW old? 33. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktmlew Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Originally Posted By: ktmlew ...and you are HOW old? 33. UmmmmOK...wait till you're 50...your back won't be as willing and you don't even have to "hurt" it... From my understanding pulling the cab is usuallly about an hour & a half "added" to the job? I tend to believe the ease of disassembly and asembly with the cab out-of-the-way wou;d make this a break-even situation but haven't done it myself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 We pull cabs on F-150's to do head gaskets or valve stem seals, I like to have the damn thing out of the way if it's possible. Started pulling cabs in '97 it was just a natural progression when the 6.0l came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 UmmmmOK...wait till you're 50...your back won't be as willing and you don't even have to "hurt" it... +1 I know this sounds like Grandma, but take care of your body. You only get one chance...... BTDTGTTS Pull the frigging cab. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Quote: BTDTGTTS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/scratchhead.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/scratchhead.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/scratchhead.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/scratchhead.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 UmmmmOK...wait till you're 50...your back won't be as willing and you don't even have to "hurt" it... I have nooooooooooooooo intention of working this hard at 50... if infact doing this at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 UmmmmOK...wait till you're 50...your back won't be as willing and you don't even have to "hurt" it... From my understanding pulling the cab is usuallly about an hour & a half "added" to the job? I tend to believe the ease of disassembly and asembly with the cab out-of-the-way wou;d make this a break-even situation but haven't done it myself? I couldn't agree more. The "added" time taken to re & re the cab is more than made up for, in the time subtracted once the cab is out of the way to enable access to properly torque the fasteners and re-install all the components without resorting to hackery. No more was this more evident, than when another tech (trying to prove to me that cab-removal was "unecessary") in my shop tried removing the heads from an F-150, eventually getting approval for a long block from Ford, and taking between double to TRIPLE the time I would've taken, if I had gotten the job. In the end, almost all the wiring and the firewall insulation was completely hacked up after the job was finished, not to mention the moaning, groaning and swearing that the whole shop had to endure while the job was being carried out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Quote: BTDTGTTS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/scratchhead.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/scratchhead.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/scratchhead.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/scratchhead.gif Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jared_bortel Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 I agree pull the cab. I'm 22 and I herniated 2 discs and tore one trying to torque head bolts on a 6.0L in cab. Had to pull the head off a 2.3L ranger the other day, took one look at the intake and the coolant hose cluster#$%^ on the back of the head, team leader came over to me and asked which damn diesel guy pulled the cab on a ranger. Motor got swapped in about 45 min though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robp823 Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 well thanks for all the input guys i got another one that i have to do an engine in the wsm says to just pull the front clip but screw that im lifting the cab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 without resorting to hackery And how does replacing head-gaskets without removing the cab automatically mean we will be "resorting to hackery"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony302600 Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Originally Posted By: ktmlew UmmmmOK...wait till you're 50...your back won't be as willing and you don't even have to "hurt" it... I have nooooooooooooooo intention of working this hard at 50... if infact doing this at all... +10000000000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristopherH Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Pulling the cab is the easiest way--seized turbo inlet pipe to manifold bolts anyone? Those rounded/seized turbo to pedestal bolts are cake also when the body is off. At the end of the day when I go home, I am a lot more pleasant if I didn't spend the day laying on top of a 6.0 and tightening head bolts. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BustedKnucklez Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Im with Alex on this. I've pulled 6.0 cabs before but got irritated when some jack ass moved the chassis and I had a hell of a time trying to get the cab to line up again. I just pulled both heads on a 6.0 this morning, cab on baby!! It's really not that hard and like everything else in life it really comes down to tecnique. I also think there is too many things that IMO can go wrong in lifting the cab. The last thing I need is for a customer to come back and say that the have a weird squeek everytime the hit a bump. And no, I don't hack them up when done with cab on. You cab pullers, what are you gonna do when you get a party bus with an overhang on the cab? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whattodo.gif 'just pull the engine?' By the time you pull the engine, I'd have both heads out. This one's for you Alex. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 You cab pullers, what are you gonna do when you get a party bus with an overhang on the cab? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whattodo.gif 'just pull the engine?' By the time you pull the engine, I'd have both heads out. This one's for you Alex. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gifAre you referring to E-series or F-series? If this were a situation I came across, I would tell my SM to arrange to have the overhead obstruction(s) removed, to enable cab removal (and I don't who pays or how much it costs and to whom) failing which I refuse to do the work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHNO60 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 sounds like that guy that does the bed plate act works for aces2. No need to be a hero,Pull the cab guy! youll love yourself later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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