snw blue by you Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Question, How does one get paid for replacing a front cover when you are in the process of replacing a HPOP. Ford has the labor ops as overlapping Has anybody got an answer? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/drinkingdude.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 I think I have the answer, my wife used to be our Warranty Administrator so I am used to helping to figure these things out. If the truck is a 2003 or early 2004 with an intake manifold that has the rear crossover then think about what has to be removed from the engine to access either part. It's virtually the same repair up until the intake comes off of the engine. This is doing it "by the book" and assuming you are not using any shortcuts or tricks. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif In that case it's definitely an overlap. Okay, it's a really big overlap! If the manifold has no rear crossover then the two repairs really have little in common and would not be an overlap at all in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Not trying to hijack the thread but having a warranty admin (even an ex-warranty admin) this close to being in-house..... EBP sensor on 03/04 pays .2 - EBP sensor on 05 pays .2 ...... Another one of those "apples and oranges things". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snw blue by you Posted June 24, 2005 Author Share Posted June 24, 2005 Granted, part of the job is done when replacing the HPOP, BUT, how can you not get paid for R&I of the cover ,swaping the w/p, installing the oil pump,etc,etc. I had to replace it because the heater core return pipe was siezed in the cover and got damaged in the process of moving it out of the way for access to the intake. I mean, does this make any sense? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smhair.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 I am getting confused now. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/banghead.gif What is it you did not get paid for? I would think (not being an expert on this) that swapping over the oil pump and water pump is all part of the front cover operation and is included in the time. If you are trying to claim those operations WITH the front cover that would definitely be an overlap. Maybe if I go and look at the SLT's myself it'll make sense. I still don't see what the HPOP has to do with the front cover on an engine with no rear crossover on the intake from a warranty stand point. once you get the turbo and the EGR cooler out of your way, you should be able to access it, no? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif Maybe this is one of those strange instances where the front and rear cover have the same basic part number and that is what triggered the overlap? The HPOP has to come off to do a rear cover and that would be an overlap. Just an idea... I get those from time to time. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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