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One of my techs is chasing a noise in a 2004 F350 6.0L. The "noise" sounds similar to a whining power steering pump but running the engine with the belt off disproved that. He originally thought it was the trans pump but the noise is not loud under the truck at all and three guys in the shop agree it is somewhere up top. We inspected the turbo and it had a bit of play in the shaft so he changed it thinking we had it.

 

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We suspect the HPOP maybe? Has anyone heard one of those make a noise like this? The Hot-Line suggested controlling the IPR so we did and I don't think there was enough of a change in the sound to be sure. I dont really see what else it could be... unless it is the trans after all.

 

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some how or another i remember reading something about hpop gear whine somewhere on the ford site. I have heard alot of trucks making this noise but they never complain

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The plan is to remove the trans today and run the truck. I expressed concern about running the engine without the torque converter bolted to the flex plate as its mass acts as a flywheel. According to the Hot-Line it can be done. I am curious as to how it will run.

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I have replaced one HPOP for a power steering type noise. It wasn't as loud as a power steering pump, but very simular. I don't remember what year truck was or any other details as this was a couple of years ago.

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The plan is to remove the trans today and run the truck. I expressed concern about running the engine without the torque converter bolted to the flex plate as its mass acts as a flywheel. According to the Hot-Line it can be done. I am curious as to how it will run.

It is actually very easy to do, since the starter is bolted to the adapter as you are already aware. I did this awhile back, when one came in on the hook from a garage that misdiagnosed a failed starter. Removed the transmission and found the flexplate completely torn off the mating flange to the crank. Replace the flexplate, and ran the engine without the transmission bolted to it, to verify there wasn't any further damage done to it, before reinstalling the transmission.
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Keith, we had an ambulance with what I think was a whinning noise. It was not a constant noise. I think it was off idle, but it turned out to be the HP oil pump. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/2cents.gif

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It turned out to be the HPOP. Its the old style pump. With a little input from you guys and reasoning I recommended to the tech that we forgo the transmission removal and replace the pump. It even felt funny turning the gear by hand. I guess this is not as rare as I thought! Anyway, thanx for the input guys.

 

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