Mekanik Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I was talking to a customer about this on Friday. I think I heard that the 6.4L would be replaced be 6.7L? in a few years. What has everyone else heard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony302600 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 2010-2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamageINC Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 2010-2011 Yeah, that's the word on the street. 6.7 FORD engine, not an International thing. 390hp / 720tq are the supposed power numbers at this point. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlep Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Originally Posted By: Tony302600 2010-2011 Yeah, that's the word on the street. 6.7 FORD engine, not an International thing. 390hp / 720tq are the supposed power numbers at this point. Dave Great....... I can just see the power adders already figuring out ways to screw this one up /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cover.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekanik Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Ford not International huh? I'm not sure if this is good or bad. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/coffee.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff_E Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I'm thinking it's a good thing. This way, if weak links are discovered, Ford can impliment immediate production line changes without getting into a long political pissing match with another company. How many years have they ignored leaking bedplates when having the engine builder simply run beads of silicone during engine assembly could have saved MILLIONS. Oh thats right, 6 years AND COUNTING. I think if things are built in house it's more likely the warranty Nazi's can actually use their data to push for the improvement of designs, rather than the bending over of technicians. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/2cents.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamageINC Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I think it's a GREAT thing - look at the success of FORD's diesel engines overseas, the Lion engines, they're very, very reliable and make excellent power as well. As long as they build these like they're building their Euro diesels, I think we'll be much happier with the outcome. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekanik Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 That sounds good right now. But we all make a living on fixing these fine pieces of machinery. Sure, if ford built a very reliable diesel engine the customer would be really happy and Dave's back would feel better, but that would leave a lot of us with even less work coming in the door. We should be careful what we wish for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlep Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Good point but on the other hand ... new engines generally mean new problems, which is always something to look forward to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamageINC Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Good point but on the other hand ... new engines generally mean new problems, which is always something to look forward to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif Exactly. The 7.3's were very problem free in the grand scheme of things, we we still made money on them, and made it a LOT easier than we do with the 6.0. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that, from a customer pay standpoint, the cost of failed parts PLUS the labor times that SHOULD be charged for these 6.0 (and 6.4, soon) repairs is so high that the owners just laugh in your face when they see the estimate and put the money towards a new truck. We're forced to pull the times down even further to sell a job and then we work twice as hard to make money on it. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja972r Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 The 6.7 and 4.4 are engines that were helped produced by Land Rover. Mikey T from Ford said were in for a treat when they get released. He would not get into details of the problems they had with both engines. No matterhow much I asked. Just an eyebrow raise is all I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Mikey T from Ford said were in for a treat when they get released. I could take that two ways. Was it dripping with sarcasm and doubt or enthusiasm and a gleam in his eye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekanik Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Nothing agianst Mikey T, but unless you were asking him about where is a good place to eat, I don't think his opinion is all that great. Where I work he is known as "the guy with the really big pants" . That reminds me. Today is my 1 year anniversery. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif To be honest, I hope the new diesel engines arent perfect. We would loose a lot of work if all of the 6.0Ls suddenly disappeared. If there was a replacement engine that never broke, that would put all of us in a bad situation. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/2cents.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja972r Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I have to agree with you there Jimmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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