Keith Browning Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Ford, Navistar settle engine dispute Wed Jan 14, 2009 * Say they settle all litigation between them * Say ending current diesel engine supply pact * Say Ford will make undisclosed payment to Navistar CHICAGO, Jan 13 (Reuters) - Ford Motor Co (F.N) and Navistar International Corp (NAV.N), which have been locked in a dispute over a diesel engine supply contract for several years, said on Tuesday they had reached a settlement that brings the legal fight to an end and effectively dissolves a 30-year partnership. In a joint statement, the two companies said they had reached an agreement to "restructure their ongoing business relationship and settle all existing litigation between the companies." They said Navistar's current contract to supply diesel engines to Ford would not continue beyond year's end, ending a relationship between the two companies that began in 1979 but broke down in recent years over the development of a next-generation for Ford's F-150 pickup trucks, a top-selling vehicle in the U.S. market. The current diesel engine supply contract, the one dating back to 1979, will end effective Dec. 31, 2009. As a result of the settlement, Ford will make an undisclosed payment to Navistar. Ford and Navistar said they would continue their diesel engine supply relationship in South America. Navistar had claimed in its lawsuit that Ford planned to produce a 4.4-liter diesel engine for the F-150 on its own, a move that it said violates the contract with Navistar. The Warrenville, Illinois-based company claimed it had spent millions of millions of dollars to develop a next-generation diesel engine for Ford code-named "Lion" for use in the pickup trucks and other vehicles and sought hundreds of millions of dollars in damages from the automaker. Separately, the two sides had sued each other over pricing and warranty claims related to the current run of diesel engines Navistar has supplied for Ford's F-Series trucks. Under the settlement announced Tuesday, Ford and Navistar said they would continue to collaborate on a number of fronts, they said, including their Blue Diamond Truck joint venture, a partnership announced back in 2001 that builds medium duty commercial trucks and supplies truck and diesel engine parts to dealers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Would we consider this a victory or loss??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 Well, from our perspective we will have to wait and see what the future brings and what the new engine will have for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robp823 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 so is the 4.4l on the shelf??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exmod110 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 the new one is not an IH motor.... comes from Europe... not sure if going into f150 still.... some say yes some say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony302600 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 the new one is not an IH motor.... comes from Europe... not sure if going into f150 still.... some say yes some say no. 2 months ago diesel FSE told me they have a ton of problems with the 4.4L. He really doesn't see it coming out soon for the F-150. Said they cant get it running right with all the emissions bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Quote: 2 months ago diesel FSE told me they have a ton of problems with the 4.4L. He really doesn't see it coming out soon for the F-150. Said they cant get it running right with all the emissions bullshit. And this would be different how, look at the 6.0 and 6.4!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony302600 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Quote: 2 months ago diesel FSE told me they have a ton of problems with the 4.4L. He really doesn't see it coming out soon for the F-150. Said they cant get it running right with all the emissions bullshit. And this would be different how, look at the 6.0 and 6.4!!! Hmmm...I don't really know. I think with Ford doing everything you guy's should get a good engine built. I still think that Navistar was trying to stick-it to Ford by giving them the 6.4. IMHO I really think the 6.0 is a good engine, they shoulda stuck with it and really sat down and tried to get all the bug's out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 Quote: IMHO I really think the 6.0 is a good engine, they should stuck with it and really sat down and tried to get all the bug's out. I thought that the 6.4 was the result of just that but there had to be fuel system and EGR changes to meet the stricter emissions standards. The result is the 6.4L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselD Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 but they still cant fix the egr coolers from blowing up and have a whole new set of engine failures from common rail injection/DPR regens... bottom line is emissions is driving this cluster of diesel designs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exmod110 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Originally Posted By: exmod110 the new one is not an IH motor.... comes from Europe... not sure if going into f150 still.... some say yes some say no. 2 months ago diesel FSE told me they have a ton of problems with the 4.4L. He really doesn't see it coming out soon for the F-150. Said they cant get it running right with all the emissions bullshit. Now Now.... lets not upset gramps!!! We all know emissions are a necessity now days, just cause they can make something that works well doesn't make it bullshit!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristopherH Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 With this news and all the press buzz over the new Ecoboost gas engines coming out, something tells me we are going to get to revisit the training center for a few new model classroom trainings. (Not to mention a bunch of new red boxes showing up with tools that nobody can explain the function of until you see it used--its a fun game to play around the shop when they come in to guess what they do--I remember nobody even came close with the 6.4 egr puller!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handtm Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 i was talking with the traning insturtor here and he said that the 4.4L in put on hold and that the 6.7L with start getting shiped to dealers this time next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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