Thanks for the well wishes fellows

[Aaron]

Got my MRI results today.

 

I'm pretty depressed.

 

 

T12-L1 - broad based disc bulge.

 

L1-L2 - minimal disc bulge

 

L2-L3 - broad disc bulge in conjunction with a small annular tear. Flattening of ventral aspect of thecal sac. Bilateral facet arthropathy is present.

 

L3-L4 - disc bulge, with flattening of the ventral aspect of the thecal sac.

 

L4-L5 - (What I like to call the MONEYMAKER) - There is a large central disc protrusion. There is impression upon the ventral aspect of the thecal sac. Relative spinal canal stenosis is noted at this level. There is extrusion of disc material in a caudal direction. Both foramen at this level are narrowed, exiting L4 roots are not compromised. There is bilateral facet and ligamentum flavum hypertrophy.

 

L5-S1 - minimal disc bulge seen

 

 

So, she's basically fucked from about the middle of my back, to about my waistline.

 

All them big words in the L4-L5 one, basically mean the disc has exploded, is crushing the thecal sac (picture it as the "insulation" to the "wire" that is the spinal cord), there is a degeneration of all the tissue, and the disc has basically collapsed on itself.

 

*sigh*

 

[LARRY BRUDZYNSKI]

So what now big guy? On the back???? Or maybe take it easy AND ASK FOR HELP with the heavy shit?????

 

Dumb ass

 

Your welcome by the way. It just pisses me off that my friends get hurt like this when they know better.....Anyone else wanna bust his chops??????

[Aaron]

Was actually originally from a slip & fall....

 

I can blow it out trying to pick up my keys or a bolt I dropped.

[Jeff_]

Sorry to hear that Aaron. Is there a treatment or surgery that can fix it???

[Aaron]

Surgery...apparently the wait list in the Windsor area is over a year. So they are shipping me about 2 hours up the road to London for the consultation and crap.

[LARRY BRUDZYNSKI]

Aaron, don't get me wrong. I just don't want to see anyone I know get hurt like this. My sister got a injured disc and eventually had her vertabrae fused together. It was really painful to see her go thru that. I hope you get better soon.

[G. Bedford]

There is life after back surgery. It's been 13 years now since I had L4-L5 micro surgery. I am sure procedures have gotten much better since. Hang in there and tell yourself you intend to return at full capacity, nothing less.

[DwayneGorniak]

Fuuuuuuuccckkkkkkk! And your only how old? Sum bitch that's the shits. So, I take it you're either off for a while or pretty much fucked for work. Maybe you can be a white coat tech and just diagnose everything and have a bunch of apprentices do all the grunt work for ya. Take her easy for now anyway. I guess the upside is that the ole lady will have to do all the riding now.

[LARRY BRUDZYNSKI]

No more BIG ANGRY HILLBILLY. Humble puppy for now......

[Keith Browning]

Wow Aaron, that's some crummy news. I have had issues with my back over the years but nothing like what you have going on. I mentioned this last weekend here in the forum and who wakes up with back pain on Sunday? My lower back has been sore all week.

 

I wish you luck in getting your spine straightened out. Good news is I just finished packing a bunch of shirts and your's hits the mail tomorrow with them. Feel better dude!

[Aaron]

And to add insult to injury....

 

[LARRY BRUDZYNSKI]

Well Aaron, think of it this way.....The holiday's are coming around. You won't have to walk as far to get into the crowded mall's, or have to walk as far coming out of the "hotels" . You may feel okay but give your back time to heal.

[Aaron]

So...I looked into this place in Ohio...

 

All I need is $20k cash and they can fix me up pretty fuckin' quick. Also, it's minimally invasive, you're up and walking within hours after the procedure.

 

I guess you get what you pay for.

 

OHIP = Free, wait forever.

US = Pay, get fixed RFN.

[hitechmech]

Why not try for an out of country ohip. they will cover it all. If waiting a year to get it done here will cause more damage and pain and the waiting list in the states is less i'd check into it. Just a thought.

[eastendpowerstroke]

Hey your not an American citizen, just cross the border illegally,go to the hospital use a fake name and a fake social security number you bought from a guy in an alley, get fixed up PDQ then split for home and never pay the bill.... I get to pay an uninsured patient surcharge if I gotta go to the hospital just for occasions like this!!! So come on over it's on me.....

Maybe while your here you can have a few kids that will qualify for food stamps and free Medicaid paid for by my tax money,then for fun crash into my truck then try out your new fixed up back by jumping out of the car and running away from the accident scene before the cops get there....

 

It works well for our neighbors from the south why can't it work for our neighbors from the north?????

[Tony302600]

Hey your not an American citizen, just cross the border illegally,go to the hospital use a fake name and a fake social security number you bought from a guy in an alley, get fixed up PDQ then split for home and never pay the bill.... I get to pay an uninsured patient surcharge if I gotta go to the hospital just for occasions like this!!! So come on over it's on me.....

Maybe while your here you can have a few kids that will qualify for food stamps and free Medicaid paid for by my tax money,then for fun crash into my truck then try out your new fixed up back by jumping out of the car and running away from the accident scene before the cops get there....

 

It works well for our neighbors from the south why can't it work for our neighbors from the north?????

Well if we had SINGLE PAYER healthcare we wouldn't have that problem buddy.

 

If corporations and companies wouldn't hire illegal immigrants THEY WOULDN'T COME HERE.....YOU'RE MAD AT THE WRONG THING Again, we absolutely do not have a illegal immigrant problem..we have a illegal employer problem.

 

I know a good amount of illegals that use a fake social security number, AND PAY TAX'S THE SAME ME AND YOU DO....but....they will never use this service they pay for.

 

Aaron I've asked you this time and time again...would you give up your healthcare system for ours? I have yet to meet 1 person not from the US that would gladly give up theirs for ours.

[Aaron]

Yeah I'd trade up, cause I'd pay for insurance to eat this sort of stuff for me.

[Tony302600]

I'll call your bluff on that one. You're the very first canadian i've heard that from.

 

You're not guaranteed just because you pay insurance that they will pay for it. My sister has Very very good full-coverage insurance through her school, the insurance company (United Healthcare) declined to pay the $20K bill for my nephews birth. They decided this 6months later, didn't give her a reason why.

 

See that's the great thing about our for-profit system....you have insurance, but once you REALLY need it, it's russian roulette for them to actually pay the bill. 61% of all US bankruptcies are from people that had excellent health insurance but they got sick and the company decided not to pay making them lose their savings and house.

 

An insurance company in denver decided not to cover a 4month old baby because it was to overweight.

 

An insurance company in New York dropped a 4year old from the parents insurance plan because she got a sickness that would make them pay to much.

 

That's the system you'd want?

[Aaron]

At this point, yeah.

 

Paying for something NOW to alleviate constant excruciating pain, or waiting for months, maybe years to get it for free.

 

I'd rather pay or take my chances with the insurance and retain my quality of life, then spend day in and day out wondering if I'm gonna be able to get up from the next chair I sit down in.

[Tony302600]

ok, so ure system is not perfect, no system is. But I would at least have yours for the security that if I have an heart attack, or get cancer, or something serious, a insurance company wont pull the plug on payments to secure their profit-margin, keep the 2 company jets fueled waiting for the CEO that makes $750million a year to take them.

[Mbl35]

Oh yea what if this new system were supose to get checks your health record and then does a cost cap analysis say like the hotline has you do to see whats MORE COST EFFECTIVE to overhaul motor or replace the motor. What if it's one of those situations when you need a pacemaker or some other type expensive kind of proceedure and or treatments and they tell you just to live with it because you exeeded your healthcare cost limit.

 

I tend to agree with Aaron. One of my customers just had a hip operation, i watched him live with excruciating pain for a while now, hes been laid up for a few weeks and now he's feeling better.

[Tony302600]

Oh yea what if this new system were supose to get checks your health record and then does a cost cap analysis say like the hotline has you do to see whats MORE COST EFFECTIVE to overhaul motor or replace the motor. What if it's one of those situations when you need a pacemaker or some other type expensive kind of proceedure and or treatments and they tell you just to live with it because you exeeded your healthcare cost limit.

 

I tend to agree with Aaron. One of my customers just had a hip operation, i watched him live with excruciating pain for a while now, hes been laid up for a few weeks and now he's feeling better.

And what if iraq really did have WMD's, and what if Bin Laden wasnt friends with the Bush Family?, and what if, and what if? Nice Fox News talking point. If it's so bad, why does Hawaii have universal government run healthcare? Republican governer, conservative state...why do they get it? Why does EVERY other country in the world GET IT that supplying A RIGHT TO HEALTHCARE gives a better quality of life for citizens. I can name 30people that want to start a business but cant afford the healthcare coverage. How is that not a jobs creator?

 

I'm going to say this as easily as I can say it. IF you are against medicare for all, you are selfish. IF you think healthcare is a privelage, you are immoral.

 

Where was all this backlash of the government when Bush and Cheney were whiping their asses with the constitution?

[Mbl35]

Im no Republican, i'd rather have my health care benifits that i pay for for ME. And even with the unperfect system we have now in an unperfect world i'll keep it. Thats just the way i feel at this point.With whats proposed with this new system asiunderstan stand it(not having all the time to read in to it because of work and sleep), the insurance companies won't be able to compete with an entity that makes the rules for everyone, makes and breaks it's own rules and has an unlimited budget. I see the

expensive cost of healthcare skyrocketing out of control in the next few years and they may go out entirely because they can't compete with the company that was created to break them. Now this is how i understand it. Now when i get a break i'll do some reading about the subject from a nuetral news agency if i could find one.

 

And the reason you have fox is because the other four major networks are one sided, so in whats left of this democracy you must have an oposition. If everyone had the same opinion about everything just think how dull things would be. You would have only one auto manufacturer, not much choice in food, very little sports to watch, one political party etc....

[DamageINC]

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

 

Kill the Federal Reserve Bank.

 

Kill the Federal Income Tax.

 

Let the people keep their tax dollars (because not a single red cent of the US income tax is spent on anything gov't related - it all goes drectly towards the INTEREST owed to the FED. You can reearch this all day long if you'd like.) and buy their own insurance. They'll still save THOUSANDS of dollars each year.

 

I know I sure could use the extra 14-15 grand that I shove into the pockets of some private banker every year. And extra $1,100 a month would do me an awful lot of good. And you can bet your ass I'd have great insurance too.

 

Want to get the economy back on track? Kill the IRS & The FED.

 

Dave

 

EDIT: I believe a large reason that insurance costs are through the roof is because the government has ALLOWED it to get out of hand by taxing the working US Citizen to pay for employers to provide insurance for their employees. It seems kind of redundant.

 

The problem is that, when people have insurance - they don't care about the cost of anything anymore. Doctor - "Broken Arm? That's $15,000." Patient - "Oh ok - my insurance will cover it". It's easy to raise prices because insurance instills an amount of apathy towards pricing.

 

If people had to pay for their own healthcare, without insurance, prices would be forced to drop dramatically because healthcare would become a free-market business. There would be need for competition. Taking care of humans is INCREDIBLY overpriced right now, ask anyone who actually works in the field and they'll blow your mind at how much it actually costs to perform a procedure versus what they charge. The markup is often in the 5-figure percentage range.

[Tony302600]

 

And the reason you have fox is because the other four major networks are one sided, so in whats left of this democracy you must have an oposition.

You've got to be kidding me. I used to watch Fox when it had both sides of the story, now its just bash whoever isn't republican. They bash Ron Paul who is the best representation of TRUE Republican Values If you think Fox has your best intention, think again. They only care about money money money money and the corporations that are running this country. 90% of the airwaves are dominated by right wing conservative talk shows. Look at their theory. DEREGULATION!!!!! Look where that has gotten us. Jobs overseas, insanely huge companies that can influence elections who are owned by international people. Does that make sense to you? I believe in Ron Pauls economic views heavily.

 

Again, your statement is extremely selfish. Why are you not worried about your community. Do you care if your neighbor dies? Do you care if jobs go over seas due to a unregulated free market and your neighbor loses his job. Again, your thought process is exactly the way I was until that shit happened to me. Glenn Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh are all intelligent men and will say ANYTHING the highest employer will pay them to say. That channel preys on people that don't want to take the time to really look at this country and this world.

 

I read Glenn Becks book..he pretty much would love to replace the bible with the constitution. He makes no sense, he contradicts himself. That channel preys on people that don't want to take the time to really look at this country and this world.

 

And Dave, the reason healthcare costs are insane are because Ronald Reagen, bush, clinton, and Dubya, deregulated the free market and squashed the anti-monopolies amendment our founding fathers put in, and history shows when republicans have been in office they actually grew government.

 

With Respect to Keith and to keep the integrity of the site I wont post ANYMORE views about politics and governemnt. I hope you guys will do the same. Politics only creates arguments because that's what it is. I will, however, defend any misinformation. This country is too big, too diverse to please everyone, but we all need to look at what we can do to help each other and our neighbors. This country is turning into a selfish, "what about me" culture and thats what got us into this mess.

 

Sorry Keith, Rant over.