Diesel owners supplement...

Jim Warman · January 12, 2010

2011 diesel owners supplement is currently available on OASIS (select "year and model" - "2011 F-350" - "Owner Info"). This should offer at least a little insight into the 6.7.

Perhaps Kieth has a spot he can host a copy of the manual for those of us without corporate access?

Aaron · January 12, 2010

Isn't that "Low Exhaust Fluid" warning lamp so warm and fuzzy?

Keith Browning · January 13, 2010

Golly Gym, why didn't you attach them yerself? Here is the supplement and a maintenance thingy...

Aaron · January 13, 2010

Well, now that I've read that and I'm up to speed...I guess that training doesn't need to be put online after all. <dripping with sarcasm>

Keith Browning · January 13, 2010

My FSE is in training as we speak.

dieseldoc · January 13, 2010

It is kind of scary that you only turn the engine oil drain valve a 1/4 to drain the oil. I know when we drive in fields around here to get to machines, and there is plenty of debris that could come up and open it. Oil patch trucks I'm sure could also suffer from this same type of thing.

Jim Warman · January 13, 2010

The FUMOTO valve has been with us for a long time. It's quite a popular item with some owners (I guess they haven't figured out complex things like a 3/4 inch wrench).

I'm not a big fan of them, myself but then I've seen more than one piston cooling jet clinging to a magnetic drain plug for dear life...

Starting about page 48 in the owners manual, there's about 11 pages of possible message centre warnings... too many of them announcing to the driver that the truck is about to lack speed and/or power, run real bad or maybe even not run at all.

One of my favourite messages is "Enginge turns off in one second".... by the time you read that, it will likely have already happened...

Interesting messages include "fuel filter change required", "low fuel pressure", a few messages that appear to refer to EPAS rather than the SuperDuty, a message pertaining to an electronic locking differential as well as (finally ) a message that might help some of these illiterate bastuhds get out of 4LO.

I am beginning to think that Mr. Fudd was right.... "Be afwaid.... be vewy, vewy afwaid...".

Jim Warman · January 13, 2010

One I nearly forgot to mention (and I don't have the tome open at this moment.... = memory thing happening) was a meassage dealing with engne oil dilution or contamination - can't remember the exact wording...

I wonder how many times a day we will be saying "yes, this is a normal characteristic when you don't service/maintain/fill things".

cbriggs · January 15, 2010

Customer: My low tire light is on. Tech: did you check your tire pressure?. Customer: no, why?

Jim Warman · January 15, 2010

At least twice a week, Chris....

My favourite is where they add "and the tire pressures are OK".... s'funny, my gauge says "no they're not"...

Keith Browning · January 15, 2010

This is also that time of the year we see a lot of people at the gas stations just carelessly pumping air into their car tires because they "look low."

Aaron · January 15, 2010

"I checked the tires"

Yeah, you set them all the way up to 40psi in all four, when the label in the door clearly states 65psi.

I hope you noticed the warning on your handgun that says DO NOT AIM AT FACE.

Some people need to use common sen...nevermind....this message board has the largest collection of common sense I have ever seen in one place, so I can't expect there's much left to go around out there.

cbriggs · January 18, 2010

It just blows my mind that the last thing they think is that they actually have a low tire. Its just some pesky light that comes on and anoys them. I guess most would prefer to run a tire flat and replace it.

oh yeah, and, I have officially renamed common sense, it is now un-common sense. Hard to find these days.

Jim Warman · January 23, 2010

Keith.. from what I have seen the TPMS system is a "low thresh-hold" system... It doesn't care how much air is in the tire as long as it doesn't fall BELOW a preprogrammed value... You could pump that puppy as high as you dare - it wont care because it isn't designed to keep you from overfilling a tire - that's what brains are for...

It is designed to alert that inattentive operator that it is now time for him/her to walk around the car and look for a concern.

Sadly, like Chris states... it is a pesky light that came on and now I will have to pay money.... People would never think of checking their tire pressures before TPMS... now, with TPMS, most of them will never think of checking their tire pressures when the system recommends it ("when the system recommends it" = <turns on the light>).

A long time ago... well, maybe not THAT long ago, some genius over at the monkeyhouse got all hot and bothered that his low tire light came on... He was all pissy because he figured that Ford didn't think that caring folks like him never checked their tire pressures.

I was chastised because I remarked that his low tire light came on.... even though he was a caring person that checked his tire pressures regularly.

BrunoWilimek · January 25, 2010

Keith.. from what I have seen the TPMS system is a "low thresh-hold" system... It doesn't care how much air is in the tire as long as it doesn't fall BELOW a preprogrammed value... You could pump that puppy as high as you dare - it wont care because it isn't designed to keep you from overfilling a tire - that's what brains are for...

It is designed to alert that inattentive operator that it is now time for him/her to walk around the car and look for a concern.

Sadly, like Chris states... it is a pesky light that came on and now I will have to pay money.... People would never think of checking their tire pressures before TPMS... now, with TPMS, most of them will never think of checking their tire pressures when the system recommends it ("when the system recommends it" = <turns on the light>).

A long time ago... well, maybe not THAT long ago, some genius over at the monkeyhouse got all hot and bothered that his low tire light came on... He was all pissy because he figured that Ford didn't think that caring folks like him never checked their tire pressures.

I was chastised because I remarked that his low tire light came on.... even though he was a caring person that checked his tire pressures regularly.

Good call, Jim. I can't believe the number of low tires I run across in a day of doing oil changes, in this time of cheap tire guages(I got a new one for free at a car show last summer. They were giving them away in exchange for filling out a survey on checking/inflating tires)and air compressors. It's just too bad the government had to come up with a system to prevent blowouts and possibly injuries and deaths caused by the ability of people to ignore their tires until it is too late. Such a simple thing, yet so few actually take the time and effort required to ensure their tires are properly inflated. Was it here on this site that I read that common sense should be renamed, because it is not very common anymore? Posted Image

mrbudge · January 26, 2010

I told someone once that using their eye-o-meter was not an accurate way to check their tires. They did not think I was funny. Just because one tire had 50psi and another had 10.

cbriggs · January 27, 2010

I thought part of the reason (maybe a small part) for tpms was also for emissions, trying to keep from driving on underinflated tires?

Jim Warman · January 27, 2010

Up until the apparent loopholes in the legislation allow owners to install load range D tires on a SuperDuty. For those that have tried, the regulations can be a morass. The Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (and, in Canada,the Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standards a nearly carbon copy of the FMVSS) appear to overlap with (and almost appear to contradict) other regulations and acts.

Our new, revamped, rewritten Out of Province Inspection criteria specifically states that there is no requirement to maintain the TPMS system... excuse me? There isn't one single time I go for a drive and I don't see at least one low tire driving down the road... And we just said "that's OK". And I guess it is because the message "low tire" is a bit more than many customers seem to be able to comprehend.

FWIW, I can see properly inflated tires as helping with fuel consumption... but I don't think emissions is going to be greatly affected.

cbriggs · January 29, 2010

In BC a vehicle fails provincial inspection if any inicator light in the dash remains lit, flashes or doesn't prove out/ bulb check. Unfortunatly the only time a vehicle (private reg) requires inspection is when its coming in from another province or the cops pull it off the road.

Jim Warman · January 29, 2010

One of the things that bothers me about our model.... actually it is a cluster of things...

First.... any subsystem lights must prove out properly.... brake, ABS, SRS, traction control, check engine light... Next, I have to scan each and every module individually... I MUST establish comm with any of these modules.

Now... they finish this particular section of the manusl up with "Any other OEM installed safety system that relates to the safe operation of the vehicle (If required contact the Department for clarification.) *There is no requirement to maintain TPMS systems*".

So... taking this to "the letter" - if the vehicle has a PAM - it has to work.... TPMS doesn't have to. The TPMS lamp is NOT mentioned in the list of warning lamps that have to function correctly - meaning that, if push comes to shove, there is every chance that I could be "chastized" for trying to sell such a repair based on the findings of an Out of Province inspection.

If one is goofy enough to contact the department, you get one of their "non-answers".... "What do you think it means?".... "Use your best judgement.". Both of these are bureaucratese for "Don't ask us... if you get your silly ass sued off, we don't want to be anywhere near you...".

Oddly... I would think that more people might suffer dire consequences because of a faulty tire pressure warning system than a malfunctioning back up aid... But that's just me.

In the end, the manual was written by a committee. FWIW, we should remember that the camel is what a horse would look like if it was designed by a committee.