Mbl35 Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 I was checking out the ngs pc. It seems like a decent alternative to the ids. Anyone here using it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Yes, I have it and it's abilities are very poor. Save your money. Hickok's in Cleveland and wanted me to do technical research, so I know a lot about the company, but that's another story. Decent alternative to the IDS? You've been reading their literature, obviously, that's like comparing a tricycle to a supercharged Lightning. It does have the cylinder balance graph and some limited bidirectional controls. Save your money. Oh, by the way, did I mention to save your money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbl35 Posted April 6, 2010 Author Share Posted April 6, 2010 ok thanks. How about the new style ngs looks like ngs classic on steroids. Same thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Yep, same thing, they took the old NGS and gave it a new housing. The software is identical- 4 lines of text, no color graphing, poor bidirectional, and poor CAN capabilities. If you even used their black and blue CAN module, all they did was incorporate the CAN module inside the NGS. Remember it's FMC only, too. I'm a Hickok distributor and will not sell it, that should tell you something right there. AutoEnginuity is a better bang for the buck, even though they don't have good CAN bidirectional at this time. They are working on it and claim BiDi and cyl balance will be out this spring. By their website AE appears to be $449 for Enhanced FMC only and $1200 for Big Three enhanced. It's a very good deal when you see what you get. Get the ProLine connector and don't buy generic- only enhanced. Are you hooked up with Bob Starr at AUTOMOTIVE TECHNICIAN TRAINING CENTER 355 65th ST, BROOKLYN, NY.11220 718-492-0985? He provides low cost training with national level instructors. I bet he has someone there that could demo the AE for you. To be continued in a PM.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbl35 Posted April 6, 2010 Author Share Posted April 6, 2010 Yes I been there once-thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robp823 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Can you do power balance and relative compression with the enhanced fmc software? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Power balance, yes. Compression, no. They're working on fixing the bidirectional controls, which are weak at best on CAN. I'd still take AE over NGSPC, and I have them both. The latest AE release has some BiDi on Ford CAN but I haven't tried it yet. AE is saying this spring they'll have PB test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 that's like comparing a tricycle to a supercharged Lightning. Tricycles... teaching children from an early age that front wheel drive sucks. What's the pricing difference between the NGS PC and a REAL IDS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 NGSPC: $1495 list IDS: $2714 list + laptop (I'm using a Eec Asus 1005, $249 at Best Buy a couple of weeks ago, 10" screen) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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