Keith Browning Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Did my first oil change on a 6.7L today. Yes I did. Got some oil on me too. If you haven't had the pleasure yet I feel the need to warn you that the combination of the thinner oil and the wide opening allows the oil to exit the pan at a high rate. Not only that, the shape of the drain plug causes the oil to spray at first. Right at you! Put your oil drains up high stand back and remove the pug quickly... since the plug requires a 3/8" ratchet and extension my next attempt at draining the oil will be done with a long extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregKneupper Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I have not had the pleasure of changing oil in a 6.7 yet but the lube guys were complaining about that very thing just the other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I have not had the pleasure of changing oil in a 6.7 yet but the lube guys were complaining about that very thing just the other day.Customers are taking these things to quickie lube rip-off places already??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 OK, help me out here, I know what the plug looks like but haven't had the pleasure (!) of removing one. Is it a quarter turn (and pull) twistlock? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 Yep! One of them Fumoto valves would be an improvement here. It's not that the plug design is bad, it is that it flows too much oil. I suppose that once you deal with this a couple of times you can develop a technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Yeah, the hole is at LEAST 7/8" in diameter... That shit comes out in a HURRY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Almost quicker than a guy can say "Ah shit, that's hot!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 What are you guys charging to change the oil and filter on these, as well as refilling the DEF tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 1.0... Just like all other diesel oil changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 0.5 for a DOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 1.0... Just like all other diesel oil changes.That's what we get for a diesel oil change. I'm talking about what you charge to refill the DEF over and above the oil change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Did my first oil change on a 6.7L today. Yes I did. Got some oil on me too. If you haven't had the pleasure yet I feel the need to warn you that the combination of the thinner oil and the wide opening allows the oil to exit the pan at a high rate. Not only that, the shape of the drain plug causes the oil to spray at first. Right at you!Just did my first one today. Notice the length of extension used in the photos below: Originally Posted By: Keith Browning Put your oil drains up high stand back and remove the pug quickly... since the plug requires a 3/8" ratchet and extension my next attempt at draining the oil will be done with a long extension. You're not kidding Keith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Originally Posted By: AlexBruene 1.0... Just like all other diesel oil changes. That's what we get for a diesel oil change. I'm talking about what you charge to refill the DEF over and above the oil change. Nothing extra. 1 hour is more than sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabfoes87 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 .8 here for diesel lof. Still waiting on 6.7 to come for oil change but one truck needed reductant before its first scheduled oil change. Wierd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Well, the first one I did an oil change on, the owner came back and complained of a tapping noise "ever since you did the oil change". If I understand correctly, this engine takes 13 quarts of 10W30 engine oil and an FL-2051 oil filter. I've been putting in 10W30 in all 6.0L, 6.4L and now this 6.7L for all diesel LOFs. The only engine I will put in 15W40 on is a 7.3L in the summer time. I printed off the SSM# to give to the customer about this noise being normal, but he didn't seem to be too happy a camper about it. The noise appeared to be coming from the rear of the engine, like a random valvetrain type noise. Anyone else come across this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted August 15, 2010 Author Share Posted August 15, 2010 Yes I did, on a new truck and I made recordings of it. This is the typewriter noise that we may have discussed here. Ford knew about this long before the engine went into production as I heard it. Supposedly it will go away. I have not heard from the owner of the truck we sold that was doing it so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 We get .5 for diesel, .3 for gas (anything gas, cars, trucks, motorhomes, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Including a QC550 and drain water separators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Page 42 of the 2011 diesel owners supplement... 4th printing is the one I accessed. For oil viscosity index, there is really nothing written in stone... API classification is a whole 'nother ball game. FWIW, the diesel owners supplement suggests when to use 15W40, 5W40 and 0W30/0W40 in addition to the factory fill of 10W30. (0W30/0W40 might be an eye-opener for some). I hate to keep on harping on a subject (well... that might not be totally accurate) but we do need to consider what the engineers decree and what we tell customers.... "Ah hates tuh go tuh them stealerships".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted August 15, 2010 Author Share Posted August 15, 2010 Yeah but the oil fill cap has 10/w30 printed in bright yellow paint. It may not be etched and it certainly isn't stone but it is there for all to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Yes indeed.... but the people with cash in hand and the people that have already spent the cash expect US (us being the stealership techs) to be slightly more with the flow than aftermarket techs.... these being the techs that will spend an hour or so ripping the filter out of a NAPA cap in order to install a Ford filter in it's place... Say what? Adam didn't mention that yet? Gosh. If a customer comes in asking how to switch his EATC display from Celsius to Fahrenheit... how does he reset his oil change minder (seeing as we forgot to when we serviced it this Ayem)or why does his motor continue to crank even after he lets go of the key... All of these are those basic things that we should be able to answer "on the fly". If a customer asks about what oil viscosity he can run.... we can say "ABBA, ABBA, ABBA... read the cap" and leave it at that.... later, after he reads his manual (IF that ever happens) he will say "That stealership tech is a fucking idiot... Thank God I can go to Cambodian Tire...". We need to blind them with brilliance.... not baffle them with bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 We need to blind them with brilliance.... not baffle them with bullshit.I hear you LOUD and CLEAR Jimbo. But what happens, when you have a service advisor (and a damn nosy one at that), that always likes to get into the middle of the conversation and baffle the customer with bullshit? How you politely explain that to the customer? What is the most appropriate manner in which to handle an embarrassing situation like that? The advisor I speak of, was extremely rude to the customer and to me on this one occasion, so much so that when she walked away, the customer and tow truck driver both looked at me in amazement and asked me, "How is it, that THAT woman is still alive?". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 To which you casually reply... Because it is against the law to kill her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 To which you casually reply... Because it is against the law to kill her. ....and you KNOW who I'm talking about right, Aaron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Yes sir. I've spoke with her on the phone. I can think of a four letter word that most women find very offensive to call her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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