early christmas present to myself

Matt Saunoras · December 8, 2010

There is was stairing back at me, laughing, mocking me, the ficm death code, P0611. Seen many of them but this one hits home. IDS is hooked to my truck

It's gotta be some kind of contradiction for a ford mechanic to buy a 6.0

I hate to say it but I fully expected to see this, I'm not going to say i'm relieved but it is an easy fix. Since it's been colder out this thing is a toad when it's not warmed up. It even does the startup rough idle for a few seconds then smoothes out. classic. check eng light isn't on yet but i bet it would have set tomorrow. did the tsb, pmi and all that bullshit, didn't change anything

all i have to do is start it tomorrow and get it to work one more time. we don't stock many diesel parts but you better believe there's a ficm on the shelf

Brad Clayton · December 8, 2010

Call Ford and tell them about it and they will tell right to your face that a FICM won't cause a no start. They tell us this on every claim we send through. Posted Image

mchan68 · December 8, 2010

Call Ford and tell them about it and they will tell right to your face that a FICM won't cause a no start. They tell us this on every claim we send through.

You're kidding, right?

DieselD · December 8, 2010

no shit. I cant count how many ficms Ive had that cause a no start

jw33 · December 8, 2010

to many to count here

Matt Saunoras · December 9, 2010

That damn tsb is bullshit. Yeah my mpwr was 47.5v when the inductive heat cycle was running, it never changes at koeo, but as soon as you start it, it drops down to 42.0v. surely a new ficm doesn't do that.......

According to that tsb my ficm was fixed by a reprogram, unless your the one behind the wheel feeling what a sloth it is when cold. I can't even believe how much better this truck feels with a new ficm in it.

Keith Browning · December 9, 2010

That damn tsb is bullshit. Yeah my mpwr was 47.5v when the inductive heat cycle was running, it never changes at koeo, but as soon as you start it, it drops down to 42.0v. surely a new ficm doesn't do that.......

Well DUH! Posted Image I always monitor FICM voltage KOER after initial testing.

Matt Saunoras · December 9, 2010

don't mind me, you'll find out fast i'm still learning these trucks Posted Image

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actually, to show you how little I do, i haven't done a warranty ficm under that tsb yet

Keith Browning · December 9, 2010

Wasn't razzing you really. Just adding that it is a good thing to do. Some FICM's I have run into only showed low voltage when running... and they were likely tow-in's with a full list of FICM DTC'S

cbriggs · December 9, 2010

I,ve had some that idle and precylce around 46 volts, then when you rev them up to 2000 - 2500 ish m-pwr drops to the high 30s.

Keith Browning · December 9, 2010

And that CAN'T be good can it? Posted Image

deezul · December 9, 2010

I had one FICM last week where the voltages were within spec but it would constantly set all 8 injector circuit low codes. No p0611 present. As for FICMs not causing a no-start, I say poppycock to that.

Keith Browning · December 9, 2010

As for FICMs not causing a no-start, I say poppycock to that.

You don't have to be so polite about it. Say it! It's BULLSHIT!!! Posted Image

BrunoWilimek · December 10, 2010

Originally Posted By: deezul

As for FICMs not causing a no-start, I say poppycock to that.

You don't have to be so polite about it. Say it! It's BULLSHIT!!!

+1

Brad Clayton · December 10, 2010

+1000

Mbl35 · December 10, 2010

Had a few crank no starts here with no dtc and fim was the fix.

Keith Browning · December 10, 2010

Do you know how many claims have been kicked back because of no DTC's?It's like a knee-jerk reaction they have at Ford. "There are no DTC's to support this repair" to which you have to write out an explanation describing the diagnosis you already wrote on the back of the repair order... which was already Faxed to them.

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Jim Warman · December 10, 2010

The heart of the matter is... did your repair fix the truck?. This is the overwhelming need in spite of what some desk princess decrees. Sadly, there are times when the story needs to fit the repair - not vice versa.

Keith Browning · December 10, 2010

The heart of the matter is... did your repair fix the truck?. This is the overwhelming need in spite of what some desk princess decrees. Sadly, there are times when the story needs to fit the repair - not vice versa.

I eluded to just that in another topic. It may come down to eventually writing down what "they" want to hear. Damned be the reality of the actual test results and diagnosis.

Matt Saunoras · December 29, 2010

anyone putting half shells in vehicles under warranty? i've got one to check out tomorrow, guess i gotta pull it apart and look it over. if i throw a whole ficm at it you know they'll call it back

GregH · December 31, 2010

Since they came out with the halfshell, that's all I've been putting on - CP or warranty. 1.7 under warranty regardless, but I tack on a few extra tenths for doing the module work under CP..