6.4 L front oil pump and crank seal replacment

dkachma · April 9, 2011

i am just wondering if any one would know the retail labour time from mitchell or chilton labour book to replace the front oil pump gasket and front crankshaft seal on a 2008 F350 witha 6.4L, no plow or no grill on front....Ford warranity pays .5 for oil leak diag. and 3.1 for oil pump gasket and seal replacement.... i justwanna know if i am getting flat raped again

Keith Browning · April 9, 2011

With good dexterity and a little patience you can actually do that repair without removing the fan, shroud or even the stator. The hard part is torquing the NEW dampener bolts which are torque to yield. Access the torque converter nuts, install a 9/16ths socket onto one and turn the crank until it locks up. Though, I have to admit the belt tensioners have pissed me off on several occasions but that is my fault for not being able to afford a decent tensioner tool... but that is another story for another day.

Jim Warman · April 9, 2011

I have to admit the belt tensioners have pissed me off on several occasions but that is my fault for not being able to afford a decent tensioner tool... but that is another story for another day.

A 3/8ths drive flex head ratchet with a longish handle and a short length of EMT tubing to act as a snipe (let's not forget I am a feeble old man). For the AC belt, add one or two 1 inch extensions. Access the tensioners from below - not sure if I should have said that since accessing either tensioner from the top makes no sense at all.

Keith Browning · April 9, 2011

Thanx Jim. I use ratchets which sometimes end up in the wrong position and getting stuck with pressure from the tensioner pushing the handle against the fan stator. Some days I really feel like an idiot... if I am not getting something jammed I am dropping "the same" fastener or a wrench while I am precariously laying on top of an engine... over and over and over... Posted Image

Jim Warman · April 9, 2011

Same shit happens to me... all too often. Something I often tell people faced with problems... "THINK SIDEWAYS". Sometimes the shortest distance between two points is around a couple of corners. We have become so driven that we see only the goal and not the path.

There are times I do stuff that leaves others scratching their heads (sometimes I do stuff that leaves me scratching my head). One of the beautiful things about being this old is having the ability to watch someone struggle with something only to walk over and let experience "kick in". One strike with a hammer - one push with a pry bar - look at it as if I were cross...

I have "tricks"...I can't tell you what they are because sometimes I do them with no thought of what I'm doing (the result seems to "just happen" - even to me)... I can't tell you where I learned them because I can't remember... I can't tell you where to use them without immersing myself in your problem and letting instinct take over. Often, I can't tell you what I did because sometimes (and I firmly believe this) - sometimes, it seems to have more to do with how you hold your tongue (you might call that "Lady Luck") than what you actually do.

Now that I have stolen yet another thread... I have only ever read portions of "Zen and the Art Of Auto Repair"... so I'm not sure that this hippy driven tome could be called influential. But I do sometimes feel that you need to "become one" with your patient.

Recently, we replaced the alternator on a 550 with a 6.4 WITH a V-MAC compressor (this changes the complection immensely - or so we thought)... 16 hours into that job.... Friday, I did the same job, I feel bad because it shouldn't have taken as long as I took... With the usual interruptions and the failure to see that the FEAD belt slipped off a pulley when I was testing the PAS, I was done in about 6 hours.... The original tech thought straight ahead... I thought "sideways".

This isn't to say that the original tech is a "bad tech". But, in the abscence of a published step by step procedure for alternator replacement with the V-MAC modifications, he lost sight of his path and focused only on his goal.

Word of warning... some techs spend too much time thinking of the path forgetting the goal. This is fodder for another thread.

To paraphrase Spock... "Think sideways and prosper".

joshbuys · April 10, 2011

Some days I really feel like an idiot... if I am not getting something jammed I am dropping "the same" fastener or a wrench while I am precariously laying on top of an engine... over and over and over...

And here I thought I was the only one doing this?!?! I HATE THOSE DAYS!!!!