tecanic1 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Was thrown under the bus today buy another dealer!!!! Why is it so easy for another tech/dealer to throw other techs under the bus. As a professional tech i would never deliberatly blame another fellow tech. But yet seems to be happening more more. Basicly i did injectors to a diesel and alternator and 2mnts later it was towed to another shop for an over heat and the dealer found the fan wires cut by the fan. They told the cust that i must of caused the problem whenm i did the alt cause i would of taken the fan shroud out...Well i have never taken a fan shroud out to do an alternator on a 6.0lt diesel. We has professional curtisy gone these days???/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 it's not like those wires never get cut by themselves. isn't there a tsb on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecanic1 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 Ya there is and i pointed that out....there reply was the truck lasted 107k miles then i work on it and the truck cut the wires 2k later... jusat very agravating....and my dealer is going to pay for it....just makes no sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Professional courtesy? In this shark tank? This trade can be cut throat... The vast majority of techs are mediocre... (50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class) not an evil thing if a tech realizes the boundaries of his abilities (none of us do). But one sure way of making ourselves feel better is to belittle anyone we can. We do this because it is easier than actually learning stuff. Missing bolts, stripped fasteners... these are worth derision - but a simple "there were some missing/damaged fasteners from a previous repair" should be enough because, on my planet, anyway - SHIT HAPPENS!... Or, more precisely, STERCUS ACCIDIT! I don't understand your shops willingness to accept liability for the concern considering you didn't have to go anywhere near the problem area for the repairs you performed. I would seriously question the other shops statement about removing a fan shroud for alternator replacement. FWIW, there are times that I have mentioned another techs abilities... techs that have quite obviously chosen the wrong career path..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshbuys Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I would seriously question the other shops statement about removing a fan shroud for alternator replacement. Originally Posted By: WSM 2006 F250 6.0L Accessory Drive Belt — 6.0L Diesel Removal and Installation Remove the cooling fan stator — 6.0L diesel engine. For additional information, refer to Section 303-03. This is the first step. While I completely disagree with having to do so, and I have never done so to just replace an alternator or a FEAD belt, I've also never complained about the generous labor times allowed to do said repairs that can be completed in under 10 minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbudge Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 The easiest way to make yourself look good is to make someone else look bad. Unfortunately, in this business if one of us looks bad we all must be bad...in the public's eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 If you weren't a bit giddy, you would read the manual a bit closer. R&R FEAD belt begins with "remove cooling fan stator" and directs you to 303-03 for cooling fan stator removal. From here, step one is "remove the cooling fan". We are directed to removing the cooling fan in this very same section. Step one of "remove cooling fan" begins with "remove the radiator". Back to my original statement... *I would seriously question the other shops statement about removing a fan shroud for alternator replacement.* With my various sticks, wires and tricks, I can change an alternator in far less time than it takes to change a FEAD belt and I can change a FEAD belt in less time than it takes to drain and refill the cooling system.... and I DO NOT WORK FAST. Had you read the post a little closer, you would find that step TWO in replacing the generator (Yes, Ford considers the alternator to be an AC generator) is to remove the cooling fan.... Back to the chase... I would assume that the accusing shop is on the same planet that we are. And I would suggest that, if the accusing shop doesn't charge for radiator R&I to replace the fan clutch - well, you should get my drift.... There is an extreme lack of professionalism in this trade. The number of techs willing to defeat emissions controls to make a sale is overwhelming.... and the crap doesn't stop there. This is a serious, far-reaching, complex concern - one that has no simple solutions and one that touches every one of us in some way. It is the reason so many techs are underpaid and the reason so many techs are overpaid and the reason so many civilians views us a thieves, charlatans or worse. What is most surprising is that anyone would be surprised about being thrown under the bus...... FWIW, the only good part about Ford shop manuals is the "description and operation" and "diagnosis and testing" sections. Once you learn how a system or circuit works, you can decide how to best test its functionality. If you are depending on Fords pinpoint tests for any accuracy or resolution, you will be sorely disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSHTech Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class I like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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