dkachma Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 hello what r u guys charging retail to r and r a rad and thermastates and the AC belt all on a 2008 6.4l F350.... i just wanna see how bad i am getting hosed for time here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbriggs Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Mitchell on demand shows rad re and re (auto trans) 3.5hrs, t-stats re and re 3.0 hrs, and a/c belt re and re at 3.2. I'm assuming you did all 3 at once? I would probably bill rad re and re with a combination for the a/c belt of .5 or so and the t-stats at .7 or so. (FWIW I have changed an a/c belt from below in .4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkachma Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 retail.7 to change t-states, even waranty pays .9 with rad removal, i am not sure how one can change A/C belt from below without taking off the big gger serpentine belt frist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkachma Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 Thank-u very much for ur reply cbriggs, our dealership is too cheap to invest in any new labour books, our Mitchell book goes up to 2008 only, no labour in that book for any 6.4L engine at all they been just using warranty times for all reatil jobs too, much to my disapproval......now i can show them how much time and money they r actuallu losing and me also... almost time to find a new job if i have to keep putting up with this bull crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Dave, as a general rule if I don't have access to non-OEM labor pubs I use (warranty time +30%) If you are performing something like a TSB under customer pay don't forget to include applicable diagnostic time that the factory screws us out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 don't forget to include applicable diagnostic time that the factory screws us out of. this ^^^ rarely do I get paid adequate diagnostic time. I think that speaks for most of us too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Originally Posted By: Keith Browning don't forget to include applicable diagnostic time that the factory screws us out of. this ^^^ rarely do I get paid adequate diagnostic time. I think that speaks for most of us too x2!! We get a whoppin .5 for diag for pretty much anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbriggs Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 We bill 1.0 diag for anything that the IDS gets plugged into or anything electrical. 1.5 for any diesel diag and extra if it gets into thing like hp oil leak tests or compression tests. To change a/c belt from below: remove 2 lower fan shroud bolts, (can also remove steering shock and ground cable for more room) release big belt tension w/ 3/8" flex head ratchet, (gets jammed against water pump after belt is off, I just leave it there until reassebly) flip big belt off of crank pulley and move it aside. Release a/c belt tension with a 3/8 ratchet and 3" extension. (or cut old belt to remove) To install a/c belt I put a peice of pipe on my ratchet that is holding the tensioner, and then loop a camlock tiedown around the pipe to the lh frame rail, this frees up both hands to install the belt. Reinstall big belt and anything else removed. I have also changed the outer belt tensioners and belts this same way. We subscribe to mitchell ondemand 5 online. I think its about $100 to $150 per month. Well worth it if you do lots of off brand work or lots of retail. Allows you to print part and labour quotes, uses full colour wiring diagrams. For the most part their labour times are on the generous side. Repair info leaves a bit to be desired on some stuff. The estimator side has quick and easy part lookup, lots of times I get a part # from there faster than the parts guy can look it up, and the pricing on ford parts is deadly accurate( to the msrp price) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 We subscribe to Mitchell ondemand 5 online. Repair info leaves a bit to be desired on some stuff. Keep in mind all info on MOD and AllData is condensed factory service data, but they both have great support services. Call, e-mail or fax your request in and they respond quickly, faxing/e-mailing you all factory service manual pages pertinent to the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikill Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I charge 5.0 to replace radiator and thermostats with diag. 2.5 for just thermostats 4.0 for just radiator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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