Keith Browning Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I know there have many comments to this, but do they dip these engines in paint or what? I just got a 7007 assembly for an Econoline that is so glossy and black it gleams. So the usual paint scraping goes on in bolt holes and hose fittings. But his was my first Econoline FQR install (if you can believe that) so quite a bit of disassembly has to happen to shoehorn that thing in the truck. Sockets don't fit, the paint is still soft. Shit that shouldn't be painted is thickly coated. Honestly, to they REALLY have to do that??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Yes, yes they do. Some of the guys don't want to but they have to, it's in their contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I don't think they dip them. I put in an FQR 7.3L the other week and the side of the oil filter that faces the oil pan was not painted, just had a bit of over spray. They must have one those fancy new robots painting them real good. ALl the valve cover bolts that required nuts on them to hold stuff in place I just swapped from the old engine, it's faster that trying to clean them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Leon, we are actually kidding about the "dipping in paint." The joke is that the paint is so thick that it causes problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Before seeing this thread that discussion went on a lot about dipping. It really looks like they do. My bad for being so gullible I guess. Although that is one of the reasons my wife married me, I am one of the few nice guys left, sometimes too nice, It gets me into some funny predicaments, but that is a story for another time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted September 16, 2011 Author Share Posted September 16, 2011 It almost would not be so bad but for the half assed attempt to tape hose connections and sensor connectors. I feel like contacting the Hot-Line and asking them "what is the proper chemical for removing an 1/8" coating of black paint from the inside of the cam sensor where the harness connects?" I just want to scream. I love how the entire turbocharger is also painted: heat shield and the IPR as well. The y-pipe and manifolds will smoke for days I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 These things are done in the states, right? It almost makes me think they paint them like that to protect them when they're in a container or the hold of a ship from overseas.... I remember GM's brand new Mexican 350's being the same way, coated so heavy with black paint you had to chase the threads and clean the bell flange for fear the tranny would come loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted September 16, 2011 Author Share Posted September 16, 2011 I think it's done to make them look pretty. I think it's stupid. They look like shit all painted up like that. Especially once the engine has been taken apart or the paint starts to peel off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Bruce, I believe they are done on a contract basis in various locales. The ones we get come from Vulcan in Edmonton. Like everyone elses they look more like they are dipped than sprayed. For the most part, they always seem to have been built by somebody that hates their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 I think the most annoying part of this is that they put plastic tips or tape over some sensors, hose connections and such and it's done half-ass. You still end up having to remove paint. Adding to my list on this engine today... removed paint from the crank pulley in two ways. First, the FEAD belt area was painted up nice and thick. I can only imagine what affect that would have had. Second, all of the pulley mounts including the dampener where the extra pulley mounts to it. Yeah, just bolt that stuff up and when the engine gets hot they all start loosening as the paint softens. Am I bitching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 What a mess. If it wasn't hidden by the van it is shoehorned into it would be embarrasing. You should see the smoke that leaks past the engine cover seal as it gently rises up and over the dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 It looked bad but then you said the dreaded "E" word and it turned to this... I have actually met people at school who "claim" to like working on the e boxes. I say they need some couch time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmiller Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 The paint jobs stink, both to look at and to smell. My theory is if you wedge a 6.0 into an Econoline, and the guy who rebuilt in screwed up and the bedplate leaks, it's pretty tough for the customer to notice a diesel oil leak on an engine coated black all over. POOF! All of a sudden there are fewer warranty claims for leaks on FQR engines for 2 bucks worth of paint.... I've done a 6.0 and a 6.4 within the last 6 weeks that were both coated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy57 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The real shame here is the whole E van probably had no more paint on it when built than that Fred Jones reject reman'd motor does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Bedplate won't leak on that motor. It's gotta get past the paint first. Check this baby out, outside in the sun. Was nice out so I rolled the chassis outside: Man did that ever stink when I fired it. Come to think of it - you could still smell the wet paint when it was sitting there outside in the sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 They must be reading this thread. The last one I installed had plugs in all the threaded holes and not nearly the amount of paint on it. Sadly they missed half the oil pan. I noticed it when I was putting the torque conv. nuts on. Luckily for me we had a can of black on the shelf and the rest of the pan got a second coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 Bedplate won't leak on that motor. It's gotta get past the paint first. Or, the paint will prevent the oil from leaking anywhere near the source and come out on the other side of the engine. Have fun diaging that one! Not that I would wish that on anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 FQR still means Ford Quality Repaint, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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