Brad Clayton Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I wish I could stop do-it-yourselfers from using the 1/2" portion to take the secondary filter lid off. So then I end up with something like this in my bay. Now I got a fight on my hands, but I take the frustration out of it with these simple steps: I use a 4x4 front hub socket and drill out the cap so the lugs can grip it. There are a few ways to transfer the position of the lugs to the lid, but I just use a sharpie. It doesn't have to be precise and pretty, just need to get it out and round file it. I place the socket on the lid and mark where the lugs are with a silver sharpie. I take a quick measurement of the lug and use a drill bit just a smidge bigger. I drill out the 4 positions. I usually don't allow the bit to break thru, but this lid was stubborn and I needed the lugs to protrude as far as possible to bite in. Any shavings that fall thru will sit on top of the filter and are easily retrieved. I place the socket on the lid and spin it out with a ease. This one was one of the tightest ones I have run across to date. I toss the lid and the filter, make sure the housing is clean and install new filter and lid and out the door she goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Nice thinking Brad. Of course I feel like a jerk telling you I get them off with a flat chisel and a hammer in a minute or two. But I run the risk of damaging the housing. But this looks great! This is the shiz articles are made of... and like Alton Brown, I like tools that multi-task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 Well, I talked to a few people who have run into this situation and they said the same thing. One guy said the lid was so tight that he ended up chiseling it into 4 pieces kinda like a personal pan pizza and digging it out. I think if I had gone that route, I would have been rip shit near the end. That lid was welded on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Nah, I have not had to destroy the caps. I only try to get it to turn and luckily all have so far for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 Does that luck extend to winning lottery tickets? I'll send you a money order if so.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselD Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Good thinking! I have always gotten the busted ass ones off with a chisel without too much issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshbuys Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I've had pretty good luck with a hammer and chisel also, haven't had one give me too much trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 My biggest set of Channel locks does the trick for me. I think the biggest issue with using extensions is most people will use an impact extension which won't get deep enough into the cap. I use a regular 1/2 inch extension with no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkachma Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Snap-on sells a socket that fits on both filter housings and oil filter housing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Does anyone know what size socket fits that lid? (I am at home writing on this) I don't remember! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy_M Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 24mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 They wouldn't have put the recess there if they didn't mean for us to use it. What I see as a concern is not lubing the O-ring before assembling the filter. Yes, I've seen many broken caps... we stock them. I remove the cap with whatever I have at hand... be it the 24 mm socket... There's always the chance I've grabbed a 15/16ths... or just stuffed a 1/2 drive extension in the hole. Sadly, common sense comes into play at some point in the process... And we all know that common sense isn't..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I usually do use the 1/2" "hole" but after breaking a couple over the years I am careful enough and pay attention enough to know when not to push my luck. You can feel when the extension is starting to spin in the cap and back off before you break it. Then go get a socket... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 And they thought you were just another pretty face..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Oh pshaw THEY don't know me very well! NEW ARTICLE on the public side of the DTS website... Thank you Brad for collaboration! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Had the first one today. You know if that caps busted the filter under it cant be in good shape. I Put coolers in a truck and on the test drive it was an absolute slug. Never touched the cap because it was broke so I knew nothing of the condition of the fuel filters. I used an air chisel and gently worked it loose. The filters were plugged solid, actually the lower was an old style without the o-ring, it was solid black sludge I could scrape off with my nail. Filters fixed it to a good running condition again. It amazes me how people will just drive these things until they hardly run anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselD Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I used an air chisel and gently worked it loose. The filters were plugged solid, actually the lower was an old style without the o-ring, it was solid black sludge I could scrape off with my nail. Filters fixed it to a good running condition again. It amazes me how people will just drive these things until they hardly run anymore. good running condition for now you mean?. I would put money on it coming back for injectors after a couple weeks of driving. That had to have some serious miles to look like that and after the owner/jiffy lube busted the shit out of the cap everyone just turned the blind eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 yeah I wouldn't be surprised. Actually if you run the oasis it's had over 10 injectors replaced and 2 HFCMs under warranty. it's out now and has never been here for service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I left it sit all weekend, went in IDS to reprogram it this morning, key on, hmmmm that's some weird injector cycling. 4 don't click on the self test and 2 were dead on startup for a 10-15 seconds. It'll be back, but who knows how long it'll take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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