What's in your bay, part III

[joshbuys]

just finished up an 07 mustang 4.0 long block and heater core

04 6.0 blown up motor - getting a long block

07 6.0 needle bearings through the oil pump, lifter stuck in the bore - getting a short block and front cover and high pressure pump

06 6.0 needle bearing jammed the low pressure regulator - waiting for customer to decide what they want to do

[Brad Clayton]

Put a STC fitting in one of these today. Jumpin Jimminy Cricket, I feel like I been on a stair master all frickin' day. My old ass is whooped.

[mchan68]

 

Put a STC fitting in one of these today. Jumpin Jimminy Cricket, I feel like I been on a stair master all frickin' day. My old ass is whooped.

How many labour hours if you don't mind me asking?

[Matt Saunoras]

we've been dead so naturally I get a chance to catch up on all the little projects I've got going on.

 

Here's the welding cart I made. Today I added the diamond rubber mat

 

 

Got my TIG last week so I've been practicing that for the last few days. I'm waiting on one 80 cu/ft cylinder of argon to come in and I'll be ready to attach the tanks.

 

 

[Brad Clayton]

That thing is NICE!

[Matt Saunoras]

Thanks, I'm happy with the way it turned out. As much as I'd like to show it all off I'm currently looking for a grill or outdoors A/C cover to keep the dust off of everything.

[Matt Saunoras]

Right now I've got no trucks to work on but I do have 2 core 6.0 turbos with enough good parts to make one turbo. One turbo has a good compressor wheel and nothing else, the other one is dusted to hell but the turbine/center housing look great. I made it as far as getting both compressor wheels off but stopped there until I can find out more.

 

I know there's no service procedure but someone out there is rebuilding these things. I'm going to talk to a few people and if I decide to go forward I'll take some pics along the way. I know for sure you can get a seal/bearing kit from garrett.

[mchan68]

I know there's no service procedure but someone out there is rebuilding these things. I'm going to talk to a few people and if I decide to go forward I'll take some pics along the way. I know for sure you can get a seal/bearing kit from garrett.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1001465-rebuilding-the-6-0-vgturbo.html

[Matt Saunoras]

yep someone sent me that link. I'm looking for the best price on a seal kit right now.

[Brad Clayton]

Holy cow that's a nice write up!

[Matt Saunoras]

Cleaned a turbo in a 6.0 ambulance today. That thing passed every turbo test IDS could throw at it but I needed a 3' prybar to get the unison ring off

[mrbudge]

How about a 2011 F150 Ecoboost. Check engine light on, customer thinks the turbo is not working. She has 56000 kms on the original oil and filter, no oil showing on the stick, left turbo making interesting whistling noises, and right one apparently doing nothing. Base engine sounds surprisingly good, but I am condemming it anyway. I do not want to be married to this gem down the road. Shouldn't that be warranty?

[mchan68]

How about a 2011 F150 Ecoboost. Check engine light on, customer thinks the turbo is not working. She has 56000 kms on the original oil and filter, no oil showing on the stick, left turbo making interesting whistling noises, and right one apparently doing nothing. Base engine sounds surprisingly good, but I am condemming it anyway. I do not want to be married to this gem down the road. Shouldn't that be warranty?

I just did one of these beauties not too long ago, and let me tell you I'd rather do 6.0L or 6.4L than one of these!!! Oh, and by the way the engine won't exactly be available for the next day either, so she had better plan on making other transportation arrangements.

[Keith Browning]

How about a 2011 F150 Ecoboost. Check engine light on' date=' customer thinks the turbo is not working. She has 56000 kms on the original oil and filter, no oil showing on the stick, left turbo making interesting whistling noises, and right one apparently doing nothing. Base engine sounds surprisingly good, but I am condemming it anyway. I do not want to be married to this gem down the road. Shouldn't that be warranty? [img']http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/public/style_emoticons/default/icon_crazy.gif[/img]

[Matt Saunoras]

05 F-250 212k, as far as I can tell the thing is almost all original except the ficm and it had an STC metal bracket. Needed its second ficm, coolers, intake was plugged shut, and a #5 injector. Just for the hell of it I pulled the standpipes/dummies out of both sides and they're perfect. Cracked the turbo open, not a hint of rust. Red tube on the cooler.

 

I put a one piece pump fitting in it anyways, and some dummy plugs, over repaired it, I know

[Matt Saunoras]

Had a interesting one today. 06 F-250 6.0 282k on the clock. No start no base oil pressure. Immediately thinking needle bearings in the low pump. Pulled the regulator cap off and found the regulator stuck up in the bore. Fished around for a while and finally got it to come out. It had a 3/4" piece of thin curved wire lodged in it. The only thing I could come up with is that nickel sized spring clip in the female end of an STC fitting.

 

Put the reg back in, still no pressure but I'm gurgling air out of the oil filter base now. Pulled the gerotor out and it looked fine at first glance but when you really stare at it it looks like someone took a wire wheel to the inside teeth. I don't know if it was a combination of that little clip grinding away or just the poor mesh of the gears after it passed through the pump. Front cover was fine, pump cover needed replaced along with a new set of gears.

 

It fired right up much to my surprise. Who knows how long that little spring clip was floating around in the engine and finally made its way into the oil pump. The customer knows that may not be all that's wrong at this point but he just wants it running for now.

[Brad Clayton]

[fergy12]

ive got a lovely 2008 F550 CPR truck with Vmac compressor with turbo drain leaking, half of the bypass thermostat metal disc broke off grooved up the front cover, broken exhaust studs, leaking turbo uppipes. Waiting to get in the shop an international 60 some passenger bus with coolant leaks, F550 making oil low compression(have done valve cover off leak test with nothing found so fingers crossed its the HPP seal leak), fiesta with no reverse, freestar recall. Sucks being down 3 techs with broken limbs.

[lmorris]

Sucks being down 3 techs with broken limbs.

Holy crap, what happened? All seperate accidents or was that one crazy bush party?

 

I have heard stories about you guys.

 

No offence intended BTW.

[fergy12]

Hahahha. One was playing softball sliding into 3rd base broke an ankle. One was a dirtbike broken collar bone, and one was christmas break falling down stairs, broken ankle. All within 3 months. I think the only one that involved crazy bush party tackticks was the falling down stairs.

[mrbudge]

Originally Posted By: mrbudge

How about a 2011 F150 Ecoboost. Check engine light on, customer thinks the turbo is not working. She has 56000 kms on the original oil and filter, no oil showing on the stick, left turbo making interesting whistling noises, and right one apparently doing nothing. Base engine sounds surprisingly good, but I am condemming it anyway. I do not want to be married to this gem down the road. Shouldn't that be warranty?

I just did one of these beauties not too long ago, and let me tell you I'd rather do 6.0L or 6.4L than one of these!!! Oh, and by the way the engine won't exactly be available for the next day either, so she had better plan on making other transportation arrangements.

Well, the twelve grand or so, plus labor, for a new motor with turbos, was a little too much. Didn't save that much on oil changes. So we found a minty looking used one for $7000. Cab is off right now, top bell housing bolts are fairly ignorant otherwise. The customer's reason for not getting the oil changed was they never recieved any letters. I think it was a lease truck, why maintain it if it's not mine. Funny, this is not the first truck they leased here, and have maintained all of their other units....

[mchan68]

Well, the twelve grand or so, plus labor, for a new motor with turbos, was a little too much. Didn't save that much on oil changes. So we found a minty looking used one for $7000. Cab is off right now, top bell housing bolts are fairly ignorant otherwise. The customer's reason for not getting the oil changed was they never recieved any letters. I think it was a lease truck, why maintain it if it's not mine. Funny, this is not the first truck they leased here, and have maintained all of their other units....

Okay, I guess I'm not the only one to have decided cab removal was the best approach to this engine R & R. In looking at it before teardown, it almost looked like there could be enough room to pull it with the cab still bolted to the frame. But when you look at all that complex intake plumbing, not to mention the tight areas where the turbos are situated, along with those stupid ass coolant in/out and oil in/out lines, I was very glad I chose to remove the cab on the one I did.

 

Well, this morning I had an F-550 that DROVE in like this. The story goes that the son drove far up north to pick up a heavy piece of equipment with the plow attached on the front of it. The truck then overheated and blew the heater hose to coolant degas junction so he pulled it into an area shop where they did this to it:

 

 

By the way it DROVE onto our lot, this is what the oil filter housing looked like:

 

 

By the time I got to it, the truck wouldn't start due to insufficient ICP pressure. Geeze. You think?!!!

[Aaron]

 

Mike, I did this one a couple years back - looks familiar!

 

You can see the imprint of the bottom of the oil filter housing where the filter melted into the housing base plate.

[mchan68]

Mike, I did this one a couple years back - looks familiar!You can see the imprint of the bottom of the oil filter housing where the filter melted into the housing base plate.

HA HA!! Yup. Do you know where a good used late-build '04 6.0L engine can be obtained easily in Ontario? Apparently a Ford repaint is too much do re mi for the guy. I tried Carcone's, but I'm waiting to get a response back from them.

[Bruce Amacker]

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