Why? Why? Whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhy?

ktmlew · August 9, 2013

2007 E350 5.4 A/C defaults to defrost on acceleration.

WhyTF did they put the reservoir UNDER the evaporator box?

What kind of times are you guys charging for this cluster-fuck?

mchan68 · August 10, 2013

The last one I did, I charged something like 10 hours for. That was years ago. This was also a bus application. I won't argue with you on that. It was a horrible job.

Keith Browning · August 10, 2013

Dontcha think 10 hours is a LITTLE excessive? Warranty pays 1.7 to R & R the evap case with evacuate and recharge, and you can probably get .5 M-time to diag and remove the one or two screws holding the vacuum reservoir onto the case. so that comes to about 2.3 depending on how you code it... using warranty time as a base I typically base CLP labor on that and multiply by 1.5 for most things which brings us just under 3.5 hours. As I recall I charged 4 hours for the last one I did CLP. I have no clue as to what Chilton or Alldata quotes for this.

But yes I agree that putting that reservoir and check valve in that location was really lacking in common sense and thought. Oh it is tempting to stick the new one under the battery tray and run new vacuum lines to splice it into the system. Ohhhhh sooooo tempting!

ktmlew · August 10, 2013

I beleive Motor shows 3.4 hrs + evac & recharge. We also discussed giving the next customer the option of relocating the reservoir.

In-gah-neers should have to work on the shit they design ...

Brad Clayton · August 10, 2013

I guess I am glad I have never done one of these.

Keith Browning · August 10, 2013

Yeah, I have only done two and the first one I did I was stunned that "Ford" decided to put it where they did. How fucking inconvenient and unnecessary. Really? They could not have put it elsewhere? This is like the evaporator temperature sensors in the Edge and Fusions (?) where it's INSIDE the evaporator case. Does it REALLY need to be directly on the core and accessible only by tearing half of the vehicle interior out?