dieseldoc Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Well guys i bought a 6.7. I noticed on test drive it takes a long time to reach operating temp. The ambient was -15 f. Does ford reccomend and offer winter fronts for these trucks during cold ambient temps? I know on my 6.0 i was told they are not approed by ford and therefore not offered by them. And my 6.0 never really had trouble getting to and maintaining temp. Have not picked it up yet, so have not had time to read the books yet. Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I know a winter cover was an option/accessory for 2008-2010 trucks with a 6.4L engine. I recall doing PDI's on some finding the cover in the truck so I assume there was an option for it. Thought it was odd for a truck here in NJ as it rarely ever gets cold enough for them. I don't recall seeing them in 2011's or newer. Hopefully somebody else knows better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbudge Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Winter fronts were intended to help prevent snow packing of the air filters on a 6.4. I like them because I feel it help keep some heat under the hood, preventing things like fuel jelling, etc. My old trucker buddies say it will reduce the efficiency of the intercooler, but if the air going into the turbo is -15, how much cooling do you need? I feel that if your thermostats are closed properly, there should be no heat going into the rad, so it should not improve warmup time by installing a winter front. My opinion is that there is such a large volume of oil and water to heat that warmup time will be long, as well as there is so much cold air going through the cylinders, particularly under light load, that warmup will be forever. There is an electric cab heat option available, Ford gives it a pretty name that I can't remember, but if there is two large wires going to the top of your heater case then you have it. It is -22 farenheit here this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Gonna be 80 F Sunday here in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy57 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 "Gonna be 80 F Sunday here in NC :cool:" In the Carolinas a winter front is the string thong version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 The thermostat comment makes sense if you think about it, until you read the WSM for bleeding the 6.7L main cooling system. It states to block off the driver's side half of the primary rad with cardboard to get it up to operating temp faster. Tried it and it actually works, not by much however, but it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 COme to thinkk of it I did put t-stats in a 6.7 for this concern and the temps here were not anywhere near -15. Fixed it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Job 3 trucks 6.4 came with the winter front. All others were eligible for a freebie under the snow packing tsb. They were like $140!! I have mine on my 6.4 every winter. Even with new stats that thing is cold blooded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbudge Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I really think everyone with a 6.7 should have a winter front. That way when your reductant heater fails in the cold and you go into shutdown from a plugged dpf you pull the winter front off of the truck and wrap yourself in it so you don't freeze to death on the side of the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Mutter Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I really think everyone with a 6.7 should have a winter front. That way when your reductant heater fails in the cold and you go into shutdown from a plugged dpf you pull the winter front off of the truck and wrap yourself in it so you don't freeze to death on the side of the road. hahaha! priceless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I really think everyone with a 6.7 should have a winter front. That way when your reductant heater fails in the cold and you go into shutdown from a plugged dpf you pull the winter front off of the truck and wrap yourself in it so you don't freeze to death on the side of the road. Am I missing something here? I don't recall a reductant system failure causing the DPF to plug. Or this this just a typo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbudge Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I really think everyone with a 6.7 should have a winter front. That way when your reductant heater fails in the cold and you go into shutdown from a plugged dpf you pull the winter front off of the truck and wrap yourself in it so you don't freeze to death on the side of the road. Am I missing something here? I don't recall a reductant system failure causing the DPF to plug. Or this this just a typo? They won't regen with a reductant fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 If I owned one of these engines I would definitely keep an egt sensor in the glove box...........beside my gloves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I really think everyone with a 6.7 should have a winter front. That way when your reductant heater fails in the cold and you go into shutdown from a plugged dpf you pull the winter front off of the truck and wrap yourself in it so you don't freeze to death on the side of the road. Am I missing something here? I don't recall a reductant system failure causing the DPF to plug. Or this this just a typo? They won't regen with a reductant fault. Did not know that. I wonder why I did not know that. I should have known that. Huh....good to know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 *chuckles softly* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I didn't know that either I always wondered what would keep you from driving around with a reductant fault. Don't worry though, I wasn't wondering too hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldoc Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 So. . . . . . . . . . . . winter fronts are reccomended, not reccomended, or we dont know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I thought there was a snow packing tsb for the 6.7 too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 There is: 11-9-16. All it does is tell you to replace the secondary air filter with a newer lower restriction type, which is all you can get now. So it's not much use because it doesn't stop the snow packing, just masks it. No help here because the filters freeze up and the fun begins. There are a few trucks here running winter fronts, but not many. Might help for extended idle, but they shouldn't be doing that anyways. I would say it's up to the customer to make the choice, can't hurt IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselD Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 If I owned one of these engines I would definitely keep an egt sensor in the glove box...........beside my gloves. flash back to the 7.3 days and keeping a cam sensor in the glove box.... oh wait I stil have a stash of parts in mine including a cam sensor, hpop head fitting, icp sensor etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Funny you should mention that. I flew down to South Carolina many years ago to drive a 7.3 back to Vermont. I carried an IPR valve and cam sensor and enough tools to change both if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Job 3 trucks 6.4 came with the winter front. All others were eligible for a freebie under the snow packing tsb.They were like $140!!I have mine on my 6.4 every winter. Even with new stats that thing is cold blooded. My kid doesn't want to cover over his fancy bar grille. However, he has a rotation of air filters for when the problem rears it's ugly head. FWIW, we have had more than our fair share of snow this year. And we have spent more than enough time colder than -30C....... something that is usually reserved for late Jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 It's been warm here. Can see grass in spots at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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