ktmlew Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Have one with long crank time. Connected FP gauge and have zero pressure at KOEO/no prime. Crank for about 15=20 seconds and truck starts and run normally. 58ish PSI. Originally suspected fuel pump relay. Tested relay with relay buddy. OK. Tested for power & ground and control signals at relay center. All good. If you remove the fuel pump relay with truck running, truck quits. Control from PCM send 2.5 second signal to relay at KOEO. No pump action. You can feel/hear the relay click. Crank truck 15-20 seconds and it starts. I did NOT test to see if there is power at the PRIME pin but will next time i get a chance. I'm confuzzled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneakypete Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 check for power and ground at the fuel pump itself. these were bad for a poor ground at g403. did you have power at the ubec connector c3 terminal f1 grey wire during prime and cranking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktmlew Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 check for power and ground at the fuel pump itself. these were bad for a poor ground at g403. did you have power at the ubec connector c3 terminal f1 grey wire during prime and cranking? I didn't check. Rack was tied up and didn't feel like crawling on the floor. Should have just checked at the prime terminal. The fact the truck starts and then stalls when the fuel pump relay is removed should indicate the circuit from the relay back is intact? I can hear & feel the relay being activated at KO but the pump doesn't run to prime. I didn't look to see the strategy for what signals the pump ON when engine is cranked long enough. They used to use oil pressure switch as a backup. Will review wiring diagrams some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy_M Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Check the pin fitment close in the relay box using a similar sized pin. I had a truck just a couple years older than yours(98 K1500) tonite just before I left work that would randomly stall. Wiggle the fuel pump relay when it was running and could feel it click on and off. Took a small pick to get more tension on the offending pin sockets and cant duplicate the problem anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneakypete Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 yes you can check the prime lead and it will tell you if everything is kosher after the fuse block. as you stated, GM stopped using a oil pressure switch as a back up in the mid 90's. the fuel pump relay coil is fed power from the pcm. fuel pump strategy is 2 second prime when key on. check for voltge at the prime terminal . throw an amp clamp on the feed circuit as well. (scope would even be better). might have a locked up pump and I stated before if you can access the wiring to the pump check your power and grounds. I'd be surprised if you ground wasn't causing a voltage drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktmlew Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 Have been busy with other stuff. Truck is running so as long as it does I'll just have to wait till i can catch up with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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