Keith Browning Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I have not had the opportunity to look into this yet and I have never seen or heard of it. Someone asked me how to get this to display on the 2011 and newer instrument clusters. It would be a menu option on the gauge screen. Take a look. I assume there is an IDS setting or something or is it buried in the cluster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I have never found anything like that on my 15 which has the productivity screen like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Maybe it's only with an active DTC? (85% should have one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 How do us lowly XLT owners get that to display on our message center? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I thought that the DPF load pid went up to 200% on the IDS for a totally clogged filter and the regen trigger was 100%. I guess an actual 85% reading would be nearly clogged like Bruce said. Hmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The base cluster setup can be IDS'd to perform manual generations but not until the customer sees 85%, is it available on the high end trucks now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy57 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 How do us lowly XLT owners get that to display on our message center? Post it note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 It is in the Personality Parameters. Enabling the "Forced Regeneration Request" so apparently Ford has snuck this in below our radar. It used to be available only on Chassis Cab models with the base cluster. I still have not checked this out personally so maybe Matt will tinker with it on his truck? I also looked for SSM, GSM or bulletins @ the truck BB website. Nothing. I would like to see something documenting this, what it can be applied to as far as model years and if a cluster programming update is required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I'll go check right now Yup it's there. Like Keith said, under programmable parameters > personality > enable "forced regeneration request." This configures the instrument cluster, no PCM programming involved. I'll attach a better screenshot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 Now I wonder what model years this is available on. I also imagine that this will not allow you to just arbitrarily perform a manual regenerations and functions just as the earlier OCR feature worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Mine is a 15, the other guy here has a 14, I'll have him check his too Here is an actual screenshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 2013 has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 2012 has it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 The OCR capability is only available with Instrumentation packs #1 and #2 (two line LED display). Although the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) percentage can be displayed on the 4.2 inch color display, a manual regeneration cannot be performed with this package. As stated by Hotline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Hmmm so what's the purpose then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 The OCR capability is only available with Instrumentation packs #1 and #2 (two line LED display). Although the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) percentage can be displayed on the 4.2 inch color display, a manual regeneration cannot be performed with this package.As stated by Hotline. This is all well and good but, as Matt said, what's the purpose? And, why call it Forced Regeneration Request if that is not what it is. Can anyone find any documentation on this like Bulletins or Messages? It would be nice to have accurate information and instructions if applicable. You know this is already being discussed on the public forums right? How do you think I learned about it? And how long before guys are calling and coming into the dealer asking for and about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 We're gonna see here soon. I should be coming up on a regen at any time. I'm at 95% on my exhaust filter message I'm wondering if this is the same as OCR (stationary regen) or if this will be something new, like you can choose when to dynamic regen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Most likely it's only use would be to let you know when you are getting close to needing a regeneration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I hit full this morning which is at 100% and either missed the normal message or it didn't tell me when it started regen. The filter message just started counting down as I was driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Last regen I had went in a few miles after "Full" most of my regens will last between 20-25 miles. This one was no different and exhaust filter dropped to 20%. That was a few weeks ago and since then the outside temps have gotten much lower. Today I was at 95% when my truck started a regen, it was exactly 500 miles since my last one which is why I think it went in early. Today however my regen only lasted 16 miles and dropped the filter to 45%. This was the shortest regen I've ever encountered so far, perhaps the ambient temps are a factor.BTW I'm using an edge CTS2 monitor now to watch EGT and DPF pids to get a better idea of how these trucks regen under normal circumstances. Also there has been one instance on the public message boards where a guy was able to perform an OCR with this update. AND I enabled OCR on a base instrument cluster earlier this week and under programmable parameters is was now called "forced regeneration request" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Also there has been one instance on the public message boards where a guy was able to perform an OCR with this update.And I call bullshit on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cetane Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I don't. Its been possible since 2011. If you meet the conditions then it should give you the option at the bottom of the DPF load cluster screen(assuming IDS has enabled it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saunoras Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I guess we'll see once this has been done to more than a few trucks. We know OCR is possible on base instrument cluster trucks and now the programmable parameter is called the same regardless of which instrument cluster is in the vehicle. I would assume the programming would be the same, there's no foreseeable reason an upgraded instrument cluster wouldn't be able to perform the same function as a base cluster. The manual regen programming is already in all PCMs. Obviously under normal circumstances the truck is going to want to attempt a dynamic regen while driving. I don't think you're going to get prompted for a stationary regen unless the DPF is getting pretty plugged up and the truck is not being driven enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 I don't. Its been possible since 2011. If you meet the conditions then it should give you the option at the bottom of the DPF load cluster screen(assuming IDS has enabled it). Okay, so we are getting conflicting information here? The OCR capability is only available with Instrumentation packs #1 and #2 (two line LED display). Although the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) percentage can be displayed on the 4.2 inch color display, a manual regeneration cannot be performed with this package. As stated by Hotline. Perhaps you could drop a note in the suggestion box at the water cooler at Ford to have someone make a document explaining the addition of this screen and the OCR functionality? I am kind of pissed that I have to learn about this stuff on the Internet in public forums and look like a fucking idiot because I don't have a clue about this and cant find any documentation from ford about it. Nothing. Not a SSM. Nothing. I apologize if I come across as belligerent but it frosts my ass that this happens time and time again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cetane Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I wouldn't say you are necessarily getting conflicting information. It is possible to enable the DPF screen without the OCR. Maybe that is the way service engineering decided to approach it. I haven't checked to see exactly what the IDS is doing. I don't mind venting, if I was in a position to make that suggestion I would. Unfortunately, I only get one suggestion per year and this year my suggestion is for them to give me a raise. I wish I had a good explanation why you haven't heard anything official. My guess is that this was put into the IDS options on accident and they would rather no one enabled it. It doesn't make much sense to suddenly give you guys the option to enable this when it has been available since day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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