the_twig_187 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 About to do my first broken injector hold down. #8 injector blew out and snapped the fuel return line, the injector hold down bolt head broke off leaving the body of the bolt still lodged in the valve cover. I have never replaced the fuel return line with the vehicle in its fully operational state (nothing dissasembled yet) I'm wondering if anyone has any tricks or advise for routing this rats nest of a return line through the engine with as little headachs as possible? thanks for the help, always appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I have done it once. Remove the right front tire and splash shield and the intake tube to access. The tricky part is fishing it through the injector lines the right way and it's not exactly obvious. Your smart phone camera is your friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I have done one or two. Those stupid cheesy, easy-to-break plastic retaining clips along with the sound insulation fasteners were what annoyed me most about the job. Pretty much as Keith explained it is how it's done. Oh, now I remember those stupid return hose "pull up" connections to the injectors were pretty annoying as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8WA Sman Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 The trick that I use for routing brake line might work. Tie a string to the old line before you remove it, use the string to pull/route new line (think electrician) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Some may disagree with this... And, I don't want to take responsibility if anybody tries this and it fails, but I've done it several times with no issues. If you carefully twist the rubber hose and the tee on the new return line, you can separate the line from the plastic tees, then, install the line in pieces. I do have a spare return line in my possession in case I ever happen to screw up a new return line. I started doing this after I noticed some return lines I was receiving were not properly assembled, and came in pieces, and found it was pretty easy to push the rubber line over the burrs on the tee. I decided to try taking them apart, and it worked well with new line. It doesn't work on lines that have been used, as the plastic is pretty brittle from heat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Clayton Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 This is the same process we are using in class on a Duramax that was filled with gasoline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_twig_187 Posted April 23, 2016 Author Share Posted April 23, 2016 Some may disagree with this... And, I don't want to take responsibility if anybody tries this and it fails, but I've done it several times with no issues. If you carefully twist the rubber hose and the tee on the new return line, you can separate the line from the plastic tees, then, install the line in pieces. I do have a spare return line in my possession in case I ever happen to screw up a new return line. I started doing this after I noticed some return lines I was receiving were not properly assembled, and came in pieces, and found it was pretty easy to push the rubber line over the burrs on the tee. I decided to try taking them apart, and it worked well with new line. It doesn't work on lines that have been used, as the plastic is pretty brittle from heat. that seems like a good idea. I can see that the most difficult snaking of the line may be under the EGR cooler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmorris Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 You can remove the right side battery tray instead of the EGR cooler. It doesn't save any time, you just don't have to deal with the possible mess of coolant that comes with removing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I think removing the splash shield is MUCH quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_twig_187 Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 so I ended up removing both splash shields, draining the primary rad, removing the degas/left battery tray and the windshield washer/right side battery tray. I know this was way overkill of what needed to be removed to complete the job but as this was my first time I did not want to fight the return line and I wanted to make sure that i routed the line correctly. even with all the access i gained by removing everything it was still difficult to route the line properly as it kept getting snagged on everything. (like your drunk friend in high school who you are trying to get home and just keeps fighting you the entire way.) at the end of the day i got the job done and it took me about 6hrs and paid 3.6hrs. will deff do things differently next time, now that I know exactly what im doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I leave the EGR cooler and the battery trays in place. Once the splash shields and those stupid noise covers are out of the way, it isn't that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_twig_187 Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 I leave the EGR cooler and the battery trays in place. Once the splash shields and those stupid noise covers are out of the way, it isn't that bad. yah next time I will probably do that. I went a little overkill. I tried to loosen the hoses at the "T" fittings but I got nervous and didn't want to break anything so I just routed them by snaking it through everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Like I said, I have a brand new hose in my possession. That's my go to if I wreck one. I haven't yet. I've done it at least 10 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_twig_187 Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 Alex do you just wiggle and pull the hoses off or do you get like a pick in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Twist and pull gently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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