mchan68 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I have an appointment coming this week for a 2016 F-450 reading incorrect outside temperature on the instrument cluster message display. This vehicle came in last week, with the outside temperature reading -35C. Obviously incorrect. I know the ambient temperature sensor is located on the underside of the passenger mirror, so I took a lighter to it, to see if the reading would change. It did not. Apparently, the reading has gone way off according to the customer so he'll be coming in this week to address it. I have searched Section 413-01 high and low, and I can't find anywhere where the message display obtains the outside temperature reading from, let alone how to diagnose and address this concern. If it matters, the vehicle is an XLT trim level (so low end message center display), 6.7L 4x4 CCLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybullitt Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 It is in 413-01 The outside air temperature display is inoperative/incorrect Communication concern PCM concern GO to Pinpoint Test AS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybullitt Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Normal Operation The ambient air temperature sensor is hardwired to the PCM through separate input and return circuits. The PCM provides a reference voltage to the ambient air temperature sensor and monitors the change in voltage resulting from changes in resistance as determined by outside air temperature. The PCM messages the raw ambient air temperature data to the HVAC module through the Body Control Module (BCM) . The HVAC module then filters the data and sends the modified ambient temperature data to the Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) through the BCM in degrees Celsius (metric). When the Fahrenheit (English) display is selected by the driver, the IPC converts the Celsius to Fahrenheit and displays the temperature in the message center. The outside air temperature value can be reset by using a HVAC multiple button press procedure. The reset procedure enables the raw data from the ambient air temperature sensor to be displayed in the message center bypassing the interpretation process carried out by the HVAC module. After the outside air temperature reset has been carried out, the system begins updating through the normal interpretation and update procedure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybullitt Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 AS4 RESET THE OUTSIDE AIR TEMPERATURE DISPLAY Reset the outside air temperature display by using the following HVAC multiple button press procedure: Press the A/C and RECIRC buttons at the same time and release, followed by a single press of the A/C button within 2 seconds. Is the concern still present? Yes INSTALL a new ambient temperature sensor. REFER to Section 412-01. TEST the system for normal operation. No The system is operating correctly at this time. Resetting the outside air temperature display has corrected the concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchan68 Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 THANK YOU!!! I don't know how in the hell I missed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybullitt Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 No problem. I have had a terrible time finding info before also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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