ErickBaker Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I have an '88 Crown Vic with a 5.0L in it. Customer recently replaced plugs, wired, cap, and rotor. Now it has a slight misfire under light acceleration. I found cylinder 8's spark plug to be oil fouled. Wasn't there a TSB or SSM out about this concern? I seem to remember hearing about this a few times but never remember seeing a solution. Any help is appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I do recall alot of guys changing valve seals for this condition, but if my memory serves me correctly, I'd check for a restricted screen under the PCV valve before going too much further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I agree, I've replaced a lot of those little screens. Also, I've had several tfi and stators do that expecially under light load at about 35-40 mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snw blue by you Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Damn and I just threw out all my old printed TSBs. Anyways look for the clogged PCV screen, and the TSB was related to the intake breather system PCV hose assembly, what would happen is oil would collect in the upper plenum and get injested into number 8 fouling the plug. It seems to me that there was a hose rerouting and or a change of nipple position. Damn thats a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Damn thats a long time ago. No kidding... I was 12 when that beast was built! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastendpowerstroke Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Quote: No kidding... I was 12 when that beast was built! HA I was getting out of high schoolI'm slightly ashamed to admit it but I had the same problem with a C/V about a two years ago the car would come back about every 1 to 1-1/2 months with the plug fouled. it belonged to an old guy who drove it less than 1k a year and because I didn't want to make the poor old buzzard pay a lot of money to revamp the PVC hoses (I had replaced the screen) I got one of those "ALDOR" plugs that "fire in oil" from the parts store and put it in.The good news is that car still ran great about two months ago when it had a safety and emissions inspection, but the bad news is I just read the guys obituary in the paper today. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rotz.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bruene Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I remember them from my days as a tune-up tech. Just about every 5.0 that came in for an emissions test would fail HC. On the bright side, I have yet to see any PowerStroke fail an emissions test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErickBaker Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 Just to update you guys. We informed the customer that there was a problem with the PCV system and we were trying to find the TSB information. The customer decided he didn't want to spend any money on it so he took the car. I did however clean the plugs and clean the screen. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/hammer2.gif I also noticed very minimal carbon fouling on two other cylinders but eight was the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Alex... my son was born in 1988..... FWIW, both the 5.0 and the 5.8 had a nasty habit.... the corner bolts on the intake manifold could rot off and allow coolant leaks.... but this was only on those with the aluminum intake manifolds. We never saw that problem on those with the cast iron intakes.... Suddenly, I feel so very, very old.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Alex... my son was born in 1988..... I started working on Fords in 1988 just two years into the business and fresh out of technical school. I think it was a good time to get in because that was the real beginning of feedback engine controls and I grew up with electronics watching it all develop. Being the new/diesel guy I didn't get any driveability problems on gas cars, nor did I get any tune-ups! I did quite a few truck engines... 5.0L and 5.8L engines had a habit of burning oil under the intake manifold where the EGR ports ran. A thick, scaly crust would form compounded by the fact many of these commercial truck owners rarely changed the oil. The crust would eventually start falling off and clog the oil pick-up. The result should be obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekanik Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 This thread was really helpful today. I was working on a 1990 E250 with a 5.8 and it had a fouled plug in #8. I remember having a couple with cracked pistons, but this one did not. I couldn't remember why it was fouled out. Lets face it. I was 15 years old working as a bagger at a grocery store at my first job when this thing rolled off the assembly line. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 One of my current spare time jobs is doing some cosmetic and tune up work on the bosses 66 Fairlane ragtop..... I first worked on this year of car when it was still under warranty.... It's got to be a wierd feeling when an apprentice asks what I'm doing and I answer "adjusting the choke pull down... next I have to adjust the break and then I can do the choke pull off...."... and all you get is a blank stare.... "what are those?"... "breaker points..." /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Browning Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 What's a choke? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rofl.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Im only 27 and I think if you asked other people in our shop to do points and condesor they would look at you like a deer in the head lights. But then again I love old cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastendpowerstroke Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 One of my customers has a collection of old cars mostly fords including one of my favorites, a 66 Shelby GT 350 with real racing history that I work on regularly. right now I have his 1950 Chevy deluxe at the shop for a brake job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Amacker Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 One of my guys (obviously younger) was looking up an oil filter and commented, "What's a Chevy Vega?" I was laughing for a minute until I realized how old that made me.... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Or how about a Pinto? We have some younger guy's of Mexican decent working here and while we were talking about the old Pinto's they thought we were talking about the other Pinto's.... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekanik Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 A 66 Shelby and a 1950 Chevy? Do you guys have the right scantools for theese old cars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Who remembers a dwell setting?( Jim doesn't get to reply on this one /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/poke.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warman Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 OK... I wont.... wanna borrow a dwell gauge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Nah got my own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastendpowerstroke Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 A 66 Shelby and a 1950 Chevy? Do you guys have the right scantools for theese old cars?I know it's weird for a dealership, but we have a lot of real good customers that bring us everything they have for anything it needs no matter what the brand or vintage.It's nice sometimes to have a bit of change in the routine, plus the personal satisfaction of knowing that someone trusts you so fully to leave you with something like a 66 Shelby that's essentially irreplaceable and saying "do whatever YOU THINK it needs and call me whenever it's done". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunoWilimek Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 We also work on whatever makes it to our dealership. I spent about 2 weeks last summer going over a 73 Mustang to get it ready for the 150th anniversary parade in our town. I had to rebuild the carb, replace the distributor(it was seized in the block and I had to destroy it to get it out, just to set the timing), replace the gas tank and sender due to corrosion issues, replace the header gaskets, etc. Our D.P. bought 6-1966 Mustangs late last year. 5 from an estate, including a 1966 Shelby. The other one he bought on E-Bay from California. It is a 6 cylinder that he plans to turn into a vintage racer. It and the Shelby have been stripped to the bare bodies, sent out to be dipped and are presently at a body shop being prepped and painted for reassembly. He bought a rotisserie and had a cart made up to roll the bodies around on while stripped. Also, he resurrected a 1953 International van that originally belonged to his grandfather. Our oldest tech re-built and installed the engine, transmission, fuel tank and wiring to the restored frame to allow it to run. The body is also being finished at a local body shop. It is nice to be able to see these projects come together from a rusty piece of junk to a work of art. I am glad to work at a dealership where more than just everyday drivers are worked on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRY BRUDZYNSKI Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Bruno, thats cool. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thumbup.gifI think thats strong that you guys have that kind of dealer to respect you guys back in the shop to work on all of this classic muscle. Just remember Grampy Jim is always there and all of us too, if you need any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunoWilimek Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Thanks, Larry. I will keep you guys in mind. It's great having a resource like that as no one tech can possibly know(or remember)everything. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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