Holy crap Jim, What a thread! I was in the IAM union when I was at Cummins and didn't have much in the way of support from the union. It may have been a good thing to be in years ago, but now I don't think so. Let's face it mother Ford and every other supposed to be domestic manufacturer is bringing in parts from other countries, it's no longer a buy american made but buy a american assembled vehicle if it's even assembled here in the states or in Canada. Here's a thought there is North America and South America does South America count as American made? I commend you on that thread you were on very well thought out and to the point, not a bunch of blaa-blaa.....