Keith Browning

I am waiting for Ford to put a box for engine hours on all of their forms.

Maybe we will get another flamethrower video out of it!

This is the heart of the matter... not so much the site but the topic of DRR's and technicians in general. For the most part I think guys aren't filing requests because they are either too lazy or simply convinced there is no hope in the process.

I'll take that as a hint this thing has NOx sensors?

It is a common problem and I am sure most of us have done quite a few. Scary thought - I am finishing up my third right side turbo feed tube on a 6.4L. The flex joint on them fail just like the 6.0L. Hoorayyyy!

He He! I never would have known. I think I have only ever seen 2 Cummins engines in these trucks.

I have a paper copy

I would like to buy a vowel!

Quote: they sent it back asking what a DC/DC converter was... ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

I would say for *each* tech you might only want two housings. Keep one clean and ready to go when you need it and a spare in case you get one that is screwed up or you damage it prying the heat exchanger out of it.

No DPF, no CAT, no EGR!

Huh. On Monday I need to ask my parts department for any returned oil coolers that Ford didn't want back. Thank You!

Aron, I don't mind rebuilding or servicing assemblies like this. Remember, we have largely gotten away from that in the last 10-15 years. I just don't think that I should have to take it in the ass because Ford is attempting to save money. If they want to save costs by replacing only the bad parts in a component that is fine but give us a little bit more time to do it and take a little care in doing so. Here's a good question: say the adapter or the cooler body is corroded and cannot be reused? What kind of flaming hoops, phone calls and prior approvals are we going to have to go through to get an oil cooler assembly under warranty? More wasted time.

That sounds like a strut spring may have been let loose without being compressed. This is where I really feel bad for do-it-yourselfers because above and beyond the chance to screw up their cars and trucks, they can hurt or kill themselves because they really don't know what they are doing or are aware of the dangers involved. That isn't meant to insult anyone. If you think about our jobs and the vehicles for a moment you should realize how many times each and every day we are exposed to real dangers from chemical exposure to physical injury. Being trained and familiar with not only the product but the proper procedures involved in disassembly and assembly of components is critical. I applaud anyone who performs their own maintenance and repairs whether it be to save money or be it a hobby and the sheer enjoyment of doing it. There comes a time for most of us when we need to recognize when we are in over our heads or we are simply not equipped with the tools or knowledge to handle the task at hand. Sometimes the tool is the one located between our ears... Perfect example: When I was in high school I also attended vocational school as part of my Junior and Senior years. One afternoon our instructor screamed so loud the earth shook. One of my fellow students (who I believe was high as a kite) was sitting on the shop floor with an un-caged spring brake chamber between his legs while he was loosening the clamp nut. Definitely a Darwin Award contender.

Yeah, how did we miss this? I read it but never got back to it. Anyhoo, dieseldoc's reply is pretty much the common scenario. You can also READ THIS.

I did my first one today. It is more work. The oil filter adapter and the cooler body were so filthy it took some extra scrubbin to get them clean. There was also a lot of coolant crust in the two coolant passage bores where the o-rings seal. I had to take a pick and follow up with some serious Scotch Brite rubbing. I see the potential for bad things to happen if guys get brutal in disassembling these things or don't take care in cleaning them. This one was customer pay. I got more time than the TSB pays... and I needed it. Funny thing is, the EOT/ECT temperature split was still 5 degrees in the shop at full operating temperature.

Now, a jacket with a huge embroidered gold scorpion on the back - that would be friggin cool!

I was taught years ago that you can take a brass ball-peen hammer to the wear sleeve and work one or two areas to stretch the metal... the sleeve comes right off. I have used this method along with using a hacksaw blade to gently cut a line across the sleeve and tap it with the ball-peen hammer to split it. Some might say this is barbaric but it actually is a skill, one that a good technician//mechanic should posses - using tools effectively. Using common sense and care you won't damage anything. Obviously if there is a tool, by all means use it. Back in the 1960's NASA spent a couple million dollars developing a pen that would write in space. The Russians, faced with the same problem, used pencils.

DRR, or Dealer Request for Review is our only real tool to voice our concerns with labor times. I had a conversation with a "Ford employee" who expressed concern that given the amount dis-satisfaction techs express about labor times there are not many DRR's submitted. So I am curious if any of you have ever submitted a DRR. What are your thoughts on the process? What are your expectations if any? I personally have never submitted one myself... and I admit that I personally feel it is a waste of time unless an operation is WAY off, having it reviewed will not affect any changes. I am all for participating but I don't like pissing in the wind or rowing against the current but I do think DRR's are important. I am on the fence here.

Wow. And to think these things were on backorder. Imagine waiting a month to get one and this is what you get?

Fuck me! It's not like this is my first cab off as I have done a dozen or so... and it's like not like I don't know to remove cab bolts by hand... and it's not like I haven't developed a successful technique... and it's not like this truck hasn't had the cab off before 'cause it did... So how the hell did I spin two cage nuts today?

I realize this is a little late but did you see this? Is the truck fixed?

Service Manager? You do know diesel engines require Hot-Line prior approval? Don't feel bad, they just kicked our claim for that engine with the damaged block that THEY approved.

My favorite is the rear drum brake shoes in backward... or both primary and both secondary matched together. You haven't laughed until you had a guy explain that he kept turning the cotter pin and "it won't tighten." A buddy's father once told me that he never machines the rotors when doing his brakes. He said that the grooves in the rotor increased the surface area contacting the pads. He was a civil engineer. I never asked if it bothered him that there was actually decreased contact... until the pads worn in... I think I would have been asking for an argument so I never went there.