Keith Browning

Ironically, I just joined that forum this week. I am a member of almost every forum out there but I never got to powerstroke.org thinking... I don't know. Anyway, it looks like a huge congregation of modification craziness and guys who have absolutely no clue. I have made only a few posts and I am keeping control of not getting involved in any mod-related discussions. Now, as for hollowing out the DPF and the oxy-cat, the guy mentioned that he left the sensors alone. Wouldn't the ECM pick up on the fact that there is NO back pressure and the pre and post temp sensors show the same temperature? He also suspects that the lack of pressure means that regen will never happen... Might want to put that guy in my favorites and follow his posts for a while, see if anything odd gets reported.

Good news! Thanx for letting us know how it turned out. The pick up screens in these engines lets a lot of stuff pass that can damage the oil pump or get stuck in the regulator. This is why engineering insists that we find all of the pieces of broken injector o-ring backing rings and retainers that can easily pass through the screen... not to mention rocks, leaves, small pets and children. I did mention the screen is not very fine! How much metal did you find in the filter housing?

Well, I am confused but apparently not as confused as the person that put a quart of new engine oil in the cooling system The sludge as I mentioned is a light creamy tan. We have seen enough oil coolers fail on diesel engines to know that diesel oil and coolant makes that nice battleship gray pudding. It's the soot that does it. The crankcase oil is filthy so no, its not a fresh failure on fresh oil. We sold the truck, has 16,000 on the clock... and has never been to US for service! How did the oil get there? Nobody knows nothin! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif The degas bottle has been washed out and the system flushed. I could have gotten away with just cleaning the bottle, there was no contamination elsewhere. I wonder if the customer will be servicing it at the dealer now.

We started harvesting HFCM Cheese long ago. This build up reduces the collection bowl capacity and when it reaches the sensor it acts like water and triggers the WIF light. This is not warranty able and may be cleaned out. TSB 06-22-12 has instructions on repairing this concern.

One thing does make me wonder though... doesn't the box say "Cylinder #8 only?" /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif How does that get by the parts guys AND the guy installing them?

Now theres a "better idea!" I am kinda soured on the coking TSB. Usually, if there is a problem with the truck that might be contributing to excessive coking, it is easy to detect. Most of the time, I have found nothing leaving me to believe poor fuel quality is a big issue and many of these people do not need to be driving a diesel. I don't think that the fuel is necessarily bad for the most part, it's just not where the 6.0L needs it to be. I unfortunately don't know anyone who is regularly using the cetane booster... or at least I am not aware of anyone. Maybe that should tell me something?

Guys? I think the bigger dick war is back on!

Looks like a Dodge http://www.sterlingtrucks.com/SterlingBullet/

I wont be getting it in the shop for a couple of days but I have an LCF with some oily crud seeping out of the coolant reservoir. It looks milky though, not that gray pasty stuff we see with a 6.0L. I'll know more when I get it in. Just wondering if any of you have seen oil cooler failures on this engine?

Yes I do. That is what we call "stepping up and doing the right thing." I for one would be proud of ya for doing so. If it were my company I would suggest that we replace the 7 injectors ourselves and charge the parts department for the mistake. At least the labor. And before any parts guys jump all over me for that, it is only right as we in service always eat our mistakes. At least in my corner of the business we do.

Here's the topic: 7.3 injector question /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thumbup.gif

Just remembered a doozie! We hired a kid to do light stuff, oil changes, tires and so on. It was an experimental thing. He had a truck in his bay with a bad tire that had a pronounced bulge in the sidewall. One of the guys told him to go get a bag of ice and lay it against the tire to make the swelling go down before moving the truck. I couldn't believe my eyes when I actually saw a bag of ice next to the tire. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rotz.gif ...only wish I had thought of it! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gif

Well it just arrived at my dealer. All I need now is a victim and a chance to give it a go!

I dunno, sounds like you have an arsenal that might make a guy tense just being around you! The bubble wrap is a good one, I actually got out of the truck the first time somebody got me, but it is a memorable sound. The second time I kept on backing out.

Another topic started mentioning some of the fun pranks we pull on each other, thought I would dedicate a new topic to the subject. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif Guy next to you finishes up a major job, the bigger the better and the younger the tech the more fun it is... When he gets in the truck and starts it up, frantically start yelling "turn it off, turn it off!" Helps to be looking somewhere under the truck too. The look on their faces! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shocked.gif Its quick and simple, I know, but it keeps you chuckling for hours. This works well with the freshly (and mischievously) spilled oil/coolant/ATF on the floor gag.

Are you sure about that Bruce? Remember, I waited 13 weeks to get my VCM and that was only two months ago.

Scott, that is one of the humbling things about having junior technicians especially if they pay attention and follow your instructions. When WE forget something we learn just how sharp they are, or aren't. A good lesson for him, always look things over well before buttoning it up! We also learn from these instances to be a lot more careful. I am frequently reminded that because I am so busy that I sometimes forget what I say to somebody and who I say it to! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif

Jim I have resided in North Jersey my entire life moving only once, 20 miles west in the same county with the Mrs. My only other place of residence was a short stay in Boulder Colorado when I was 4 while my Father finished is Masters degree. Why all the way out there I cant tell you. I almost wish to know what living elsewhere is like... "getting it done yesterday" is getting old and I am approaching the age where "I'll do it tomorrow" is quite alright. I am fortunate to have been thrown in the back of the family car with a trailer hitched to the back and dragged around the country to see all the sights of the land. Dad was a school teacher and was off all summer with us kids. The problem is that I was too young to appreciate most of it but I do have memories. Places like Mt. Rushmore, Hoover Damn, Yellowstone, the Grand Canyon, Great Lakes (even crossed the border into Canada) and places of the like were really cool. Wow, maybe its not about where you are grounded but where life takes you. One mailing address ain't so bad I think. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

I have seen two cracked blocks too but neither caused starting concern. The DID leak a lot of oil though!

Whoa! I missed this post completely! Sorry dude, it was a little slow round here past the holiday which some of us are still on! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/drinkingdude.gif So, um, what did you find and how much did you new diesel tech suffer and learn?

We had a run on IPR's with the screen that had come off. There is a TSB or SSM about replacing the pump along with any damaged IPR or IPR with debris on the screen. I used to dismiss that advice and screwed myself twice by just spinning in a new IPR and not fixing the concern.

Your CP labor rate is high but housing is not that bad. I am in Morris county NJ, modest homes are in the 400-600K range. Many of the new homes going up around me are pushing or exceeding the million dollar mark. I am sure that helps my property value but I don't think I will be moving any time soon! I have come to the conclusion that most techs that have put an honest look at wages and our profession think about 33% of the labor rate is fair compensation. This of course is provided we are worth 33% therefore there are still many more arguments to be made. I agree that something has to change too including a rethinking of technician classification, training and certification requirements. But who gets to determine all that? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif Who would implement a plan? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif Who would enforce it? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif I know what you are thinking... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/puke.gif

Not to worry Bruce, It looks like Mr. Seagram's will keep him sedated for a while. I am going to hang here with Jose Cuervo and wait it out! As for the 6.0L vans, for now I will thank my lucky stars they are rare in my shop though my neighbor's 2006 E350 6.0L is currently parked about 40' from my office wall. I can hear it beating, beating, louder and louder... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/surprise.gif I hold my shot glass high to ya. Salud! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif

This is getting strange! Jim's post count as of right now is 666 /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/flamethrower.gif

So um, Jim? When you are at work on your "Holiday" will be looking for an Econoline to connect a fuel gage to the cylinder head and tell us the results? This sounds like a fun thing to do, you know, the kind of work you should do when you are on Holiday. Since a serving of egg may be headed my way, do you recall whether it was a 30 PSI drop or fuel pressure would drop below 30 PSI? Either seems to me to be undesirable from an engineering standpoint considering the sensitive nature of these injectors. The best of the two scenarios would indicate a pressure drop of more than 15 PSI. I don't see the injectors using enough volume to cause a drop that large due to the check valves on a stock engine. I don't mind eggs. I don't like the taste of my own foot however. While I have not tested fuel pressure on a 6.0L at the heads, We commonly do it on a 7.3L and never see any significant loss on a truck where everything is working as it is supposed to. A couple of PSI? Hard to tell with the needle vibrating. Yes, I think we need to prove this out! Don't work too hard on your Holiday! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif