Keith Browning

Quote: 7005 - 2008 F-SUPER DUTY - CAGE NUT SPINNING - CAB OFF SERVICE PROCEDURES SOME 2008 F-SUPER DUTY VEHICLES WITH 6.4L ENGINE MAY EXHIBIT A CAGE NUT WHICH SPINS, WHICH MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO REMOVE THE CAB FOR SERVICING. USING AN AIR TOOL MAY WORSEN THIS CONDITION. THE CAGE NUTS ARE LOCATED IN THE FOLLOWING PLACES: FRONT CAGE NUT - REMOVE LEFT AND/OR RIGHT HAND HEADLAMP ASSEMBLY; SECOND CAGE NUT - REMOVE INNER FENDER WELL AND BODY PLUG; THIRD AND FOURTH CAGE NUTS ACCESS - IN CAB UNDER CARPET. FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, REFERENCE THE 2008 F-SUPER DUTY WORKSHOP MANUAL, SECTION 502-02. NOTE: IT IS MANDATORY TO USE ONLY HAND TOOLS TO REMOVE BODY MOUNTING BOLTS. NOTE: THE BOLTS ARE DESIGNED TO STRIP BEFORE THE NUT AND A STRIPPED BOLT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THE NUT HAS BEEN DAMAGED. NUTS SHOULD BE EXAMINED FOR DAMAGE BEFORE THEY ARE ORDERED.

What do you expect, its a pain in the ass in chassis and My magnets aren't strong enough. I did it on the bench once before canning the turbo for rust just to see if it made a difference. It was easier to do and view but in all honesty, I felt like I was wasting my time. I am a graph reader like you and unless I can't get one to stick for me I know what to look for and I know what it feels like on the road. That may sound like a seat of the pants approach by my ass cheeks have logged many test miles! Same goes for EGR valves. I don't know about the rest of you but I like the new EGR / Air Management test on IDS. This Turbo test looks to be as useful except it requires spinning on a test sensor. Hope that turbo isn't too hot! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smhair.gif

Some of us think that this sensor would have been a wise thing to have on the turbo from day one. It's great that it is a tool but what if an upgrade kit was made to add the sensor permanently to the turbo and connect it to the EBP sensor connector with a jumper... complete the modification with a new calibration to read the sensor in place of the EBP... and use the inferred EBP strategy to calculate back pressure. I think a lot of people would "buy" it.

Quote: Kieth.. I think the profanity-bot is turned up to tight. Yeah. I know. I hate using it but I hate excessive profanity and some guys cant seem to control themselves. Perhaps I'll edit the list... maybe shut it off. Do you know how much fun it was making the list? If my !@#!?$! read it I would be ashamed for knowing all those bad words! (it is more than you think) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shocked.gif

I Googled it and downloaded it earlier. It loaded and does whatever it is supposed to but the IDS application still won't load and tells me it wont because of the wrong version of Windows. I don't see how it is going to get around that.

Stay out of NJ. The taxes and the corruption will make you want to slit your wrists!

Bruce was kind enough to PDF-itize the booklet. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rockon.gif VERY interesting info. Turbo Diag Booklet I wonder what the tool costs and who is going to use it? At this point most techs either know how to diagnose a bad turbo or they don't. Could this possibly end up being another CMP tester? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rotz.gif At least THIS tool looks useful!

I think I will post the video on the front page, maybe a Recall in Review article is warranted. I haven't released any new articles this year /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/blush.gif this would be a hot topic to cover! (pun intended) I was hoping to find the owner of the video but... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shrug.gif Perhaps one of our resident insiders could explain to me how the reflash will prevent this from occurring and how. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gif In the event that any of you have posted a link to the file on my server be advised that the file name and or media folder will change daily to prevent bandwidth theft and abuse. This has nothing to do with anyone for any reason. This is something I need to do. I will try to maintain the link here in this thread.

This is normal and it happens with WDS as well. It appears that keeping your software up to date helps keep your calibrations up to date, sort of. Here is my observation: You still need to manually update your calibration files after a software version update but not all files make it into the files you download. It seems to me that there might actually be a "list" that you get of available calibrations. If IDS checks the vehicle calibration against the list, and an update is available, it goes and downloads it and then stores it where it remains available locally. (on your machine) Once you have it you don't need to download it again and the calibration may be used up until a revision is released to replace it and the process begins again. I also believe this process is a part of the overall concept of keeping your software and calibrations current. When critical calibrations become available for things like recalls, the calibration updates typically require a software update as well. For example, I recently updated our IDS to version 47 to obtain the new Inductive Heating Flash. When the calibrations for the new 6.4L recall came out, we were instructed to update to version 48.5 before we could update the calibrations. When I actually performed the update, it ended up as version 48.6! I guess the tech people at Ford are very busy. As a side note, I read an SSM that also advised us that this new calibration released for the recall DOES include all the "bug" fixes they have been working on that address some 10 or so codes, driveability issues, A/C in-op and so on.

Where do you get TWEAKNT?

Okay, the recall is officially released and so is the calibration! But, you will need to update your IDS to version 48.5

Welcome back, haven't seen you since joining us!

Thermal Event (click here) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/popcorn.gif I put this in my streaming media folder because it's 6.7mb. It should in Windows Media Player and it is streaming so you don't have to wait. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif Thanx for sharing!!!

Click it on over! keith@forddoctorsdts.com You are supposed to be able to attach files to posts but it is not working for some reason. (one of the reasons I need to get the software patch installed I'll bet) I'll post it if I get it... you can try using the File Manager found in the Post Options just under the text box when replying. It stopped working for me, maybe it will work for you otherwise I'll check my mailbox

Jeff, It took me a while to realize this but this is a body builders topic therefore this information is not found in the service publications, or at least I could not find it. I did find it at the Ford Fleet site though. Go to: https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/non-html/2006/bblblcf.pdf and navigate your way to page 28 for PTO wiring information. The PTO can operate in stationary OR mobile applications therefore it should not matter what position the gear selector is in depending on how it is wired up. You can enable the PTO, raise the idle or limit PTO operation to certain conditions. Someone may have wired that truck so that the PTO only works with the truck in park, or with the parking brake on, etc... For actual wiring diagrams consult the wiring diagram manual, section 140, which is the "Customer Access" cell.

I did not know there was a calibration like that for the LCF. I tried a recal on one and I couldn't get it to work... needed a dealer code or some kind of code. I haven't had a need to do it but I just WANTED to for the experience... in case I actually NEED to in the future. Do the LCF's fall under the 2006 and newer rule or can we flash them all Willy-Nilly like as we please?

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thumbup.gif Thanx for the heads up! Got my vin list ready but I don't know if the recall and calibration have been released yet. Got me 28 of them on my list in stock!

I thought I read the rear main crank seal was redesigned for the 6.4L? If that's true then the old seal MUST have been crap! I still have yet to replace one for a leak! Quote: I'm far from the best tech in the world (by miles), but I hate being lumped in with the inadequate ones.... Yeah but you've got Moxy and that puts you in a different class! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/notworthy.gif (For you younger kids, see Moxy defined)

Perhaps the perception that the Econoline ambulances ride better is because most of the damn things are too heavy! Anything that gently rocks side to side while going down the road has to be close to the GVWR. This might also explain why we do so many transmissions in ambulances. Recently I have spotted a couple of units built on International chassis but I don't know which model. Definitely medium duty units but I am not recommending a F650 ambulance package. In my opinion, yes I have one, a Super Duty chassis would be a smarter choice for weight and serviceability, but then there is that reliability factor isn't there? Boy, it would be ironic that I might be hauled off in a 6.0L equipped ambulance with life threatening injuries and the STC fitting lets loose... we're losing him!!! CLEAR!!! beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rotz.gif "Give him another pint of 15W40 and 100 CC's of cetane booster!"

Joey, you need to be running IDS version 47 which was released this month. Once you do that IDS will go get the newest files.

Wow. Thats a little involved but cool non the less. I was looking at our VCM and removed that clear plastic cover. I looked inside and fond that looks like a PCMCIA card slot. Perhaps a wireless PC card could be installed and the VCM configured to make it work. A simple ad-hoc connection to your PC or Notebook is all that you should need. I wonder if this was considered while developing the tool... but I don't know what that connector is actually for so this is pure speculation.

Quote: 6973 - 2008 F-SUPER DUTY - 6.4L DIESEL ENGINE - ENGINE OIL LEAK SOME 2008 F-SUPER DUTY WITH A 6.4L DIESEL ENGINE BUILT PRIOR TO INDIANAPOLIS ESN-7008584 AND HUNTSVILLE ESN-0436024, MAY EXHIBIT AN OIL LEAK DUE TO A MISSING OIL LEVEL INDICATOR TUBE O-RING. THIS LEAK MAY APPEAR TO BE THE REAR MAIN CRANKSHAFT SEAL, OR BEDPLATE SEAL. CAREFULLY CLEAN EXCESS SURFACE OIL AND CONFIRM LEAK LOCATION. ...and they are fighting over warranty costs. Let's see how many of these /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/2cents.gif seals end up causing multiple misdiagnosed oil leaks.

I used liquid Tide. Filled the system with water and added three or four capfuls of Tide then I drove the truck to get it hot. I drove it hard too. The oil residue collects in the degas bottle and I discovered that the coolant recovery machine we have which "sucks" the coolant from the filler neck is the best way to remove the bulk of the contamination. On the last one we had, I removed the degas bottle and flushed it out in the parts cleaner to get the film out. Worked well but it took many drain/fill cycles and a couple of days time to get it completely clean. Don't forget to turn on the heater if the truck is equipped with a water valve in the heater hose!

I guess I am in the minority here. I really like the new look. To each his own I suppose... now, about that safety glasses thing, I WAS going to put it in this post just to be a wise guy but I couldn't be cruel. At least it made a lasting impression! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/puke.gif

Sounds interesting and a good idea. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thumbup.gif Since he is a tech please extend an invitation to join our Forums.