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I was just going to say that. And he's far from the only one from what I read. I am actually quite baffled as to why Ford hasn't figured out what's causing these failures with the number of years they've been in production.

Just to add my two cents to it. I suspect this vehicle didn't flag a P2262 is likely because the vehicle in question is a 2004 model year. I vaguely recall one such truck I worked on years ago that set that code when I secured the MAP sensor hose the adjacent intake manifold stud instead of the nipple fitting. From that point on, I always made sure to check that whenever going back together. And I believe that was a 2006 model year truck.

Yes, thanks Matt. I just went through this process a second time around unable to clear the exhaust fault. Now Hotline wants me to do a manual regen which I can't, since it was brought to us with less than an eighth of a tank. Yeah me!

YOWZERS!!!! At $1050 US, they sure are proud of their product.

This vehicle is already at the latest calibration level (I checked). So what's my next step on Monday with this one? I already borescoped inside the exhaust while I had the injector out running the dosing test, which passed. Am I going to be replacing the exhaust system?

Well, the vehicle referenced in post #8 is now back with 61414 kms. with a P207F that clears, but I can't get the Exhaust Fluid System fault to clear, after replacing NOx 1 and NOx 2. Here's the Hotline Cotact so far:

One of our other techs did a set of rear pads & rotors under FMPP on one awhile back. I vaguely recall he had a hell of time getting the rotors off too.

Just playing around looking up commonly failing parts I noticed 6.7L rads have now changed up part numbers from BC3Z-8005-E to BC3Z-8005-G. Does anyone know if these rads are in fact updated in some way to prevent repeat failures, or is this something I'm going to have to look forward to, as a regular maintenance replacement being the owner of one myself?

I just re-read your original post. Based on your information, it seems like you need to pull the turbo again to see what didn't go back together properly. It's very easy to misalign one of the vanes to the unison ring if you're green at this.

Have you tried disconnecting the downpipe from the cat and road testing?

Funny you say that Matt. My favourite '14 is back with the dreaded P207F that I foresee giving me fits. Yet you and I both bought new ones. Go figure.

VGT solenoid?

Hence why the cylinder head and spark plug redesign on all 3 valve engines from around 2008 going forward. Which also begs the question of whether later build cylinder heads would be a direct bolt-on to the earlier blocks of those older model year owners who desire putting the money into keeping their older rides.

I just did this PCM update on my own truck. Is it supposed to save me from having to replace the turbo?

May I also add the following. Yellow ring dipstick, "spaceship" style FICM hold-down nuts and "stepped" exhaust manifold to y-pipe bolts are the quick and easy external visual identifiers of the communized engines (20mm head and block) that are January 2006 and later build engines. Therefore, the black t-handle style dipsticks (the ones that like to break), with eight 10mm head rocker arm carrier bolts (that was replaced by only two 13mm head bolts), as well as upper brackets that secure the FICM and the non-"stepped" exhaust manifold to y-pipe bolts are on the non-communized engines.

It's okay. Hotline confirmed that I should have installed a valve for an '04 engine, even though Microcat lists a valve for an '05 engine for THIS '05 Excursion. Apparently on Excursions, '05 engines weren't installed until January of 2005 build and onwards. So, if any of you guys ever come across an '05 Excursion with an '04 engine, use '04 engine parts.

Hi guys. I have a 2005 Excursion equipped with a 2004 engine in it (with an EGR throttle plate) that set the DTCs P0404 and P1335. EGR_VP indicated 1.38 volts at KOEO so I slammed a new EGR valve at it (part number CX-2466-RM for 2005 and up engines as is listed for this particular truck in Microcat). Vehicle has now returned a week later with the exact same DTCs, and yet again EGR_VP indicates 1.38 or so volts at KOEO. Is there any possibility I installed the incorrect EGR valve, since it has a 2004 engine in it, even though it lists the 2005 and newer part number for this vehicle? I know there are a lot of 2005 Excursions out there that came from the factory with 2004 engines in them. For clarity, this particular truck's build date is 23-JULY-2004.

Unfortunately cam and/or lifter issues on any 6.0/6.4 almost always results in an engine replacement. Just the labor alone to replace the cam makes it cost prohibitive.

Changing the lifters is still a lot of work, along with all the parts needed (front cover plus all the gaskets etc.). I say the most cost effective way out of this mess is a half decent boneyard engine.

It's a moot point now. Probably a roller lifter, but whatever it was doesn't matter anymore. At least now, the repair has either two directions. Either long block it, get paid for the time you have into it for your diag and disassembly and let them take it out of your hair on the hook.

Assuming the high pressure oil pump was already replaced with one from Ford (or Navistar) it should already have the one-piece updated branch tube connector installed. Given the age of these trucks, I would be very hard pressed to believe there are any out there with the original STC fitting still installed.

I realize this is probably old news but I'll ask anyways. What does disabling the weak cylinder compensation strategy on these engines do, that makes it sound like a 6.0L diesel?

This would be far from the first faulty Dorman. Ford 4.6L intake manifolds and 6.0L diesel oil coolers are also up there on the DO NOT USE list. I'm sure there must be many more parts I'm not aware of. Really makes me wonder how they stay in business.

IT'S HERE!!! More pictures to follow....

You mean like this pile that we have for one of our customers? What the hell is going on with these boneheads?