Alex Bruene

I worked with an FSE on one that would set the P120F and P0087 codes. It was losing fuel pressure after about 20 minutes of driving. If you shut it off and restarted it, it would be okay for another 20 minutes. It had been at another dealer for 2 months prior to Ford pulling it out of there and sending it our way. Over the course of a week, we replaced the right UVC harness and FRP sensor, to no avail. Then they had me replace all 8 injectors and both fuel rails (they figured there may have been some debris floating around in the rail(s))... still no good. Being a wrecker, it had obviously been welded, so I suggested the PCM may have been at fault, which in the end was the case. Now that I've got all that out, during the week the FSE was working with me, he had recieved a call from another FSE that was working on a similar case, and it turns out that it appeared to have been caused by an undertorqued (approx. 18 lb/ft) fuel injector causing enough combustion gasses to get in the fuel to screw up the FRP signal.

Haven't heard a thing, Dwayne. I was actually thinking about asking the same question... but I don't want to jinx anything... on edit: I just called in an old hotline contact to listen to the message myself... I don't know what a "level one dealer" is, maybe someone in the know can elaborate a bit.

Well, if you crossed all your "t"'s, and dotted all your "i"'s, you should have nothing to worry about.

Die-grinder wrenches work really well in a pinch...

Business is BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMING!!! Can't say the same for our car division...

Well, I'm looking at his business card, and they actually call him the "field service manager"... if that means anything... but he really knew his stuff, and I would take his word for it... That being said, I don't think that trying to be the nice guy and saving someone from paying for something they obviously should be paying for is worth taking the risk of having to lose your shirt doing a warranty engine job on one of these pigs down the road... just my /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/2cents.gif

A month ago or so, I had an FSE from IH working with me for an entire week on a 6.4 headache. We were chatting over lunch about the things that we've seen with 6.4s, and I told him that we had one that was filled with gasoline, and that we were basically considering giving the customer the option of draining and refilling... he said it was good that we did not take that route, because what will eventually happen is the HPFP will seize-up, which will then end up taking out the rear engine gear-train...

I sometimes peruse http://www.needtechs.com, just to see what's going on south of the border. I often consider a move out of this tax-pot country I live in... (I know the taxes have their benefits), but from what I've heard from people that have done it, it is a bit of a pain in the ass getting permits and such...

As I sit here, watching the 0.1s tick away as home time gets closer and closer, I thought I might reflect a little on this past week... particularily 3 experiences I had with indy repair shops... Number 1, a 2005 F-250 4X4, has been at an indy for 2 weeks with a steering concern of the steering wheel being yanked out of your hands turning corners... 4 new ball joints, new steering box, new steering pump, new steering damper, all to the tune of nearly $3000. The customer wanted to talk to me so I could find out directly from him what was going on, and that the other shop had told him it were likely a problem with the hydro-boost, and should be under warranty... I told him that it sounds like a siezed front axle U-joint... which upon further inspection was the case... a few hours and $400 later, he was on the road working again... how was that over looked if the axle has to come out to replace the ball joints, and how do they explain $3000 of misdiagnosis? Number 2, a 2004 F-450 6.0, no-start... this one was originally being diagnosed by an indy for rough running cold. They were trying to replace the FICM. They called us about 2 weeks ago, asking if the new FICM had to be programmed, we told them it did, and with the info. provided, the vehicle was still under warranty... they had the truck towed to us in pieces, and it looked like they tried to unplug the FICM connectors with a sledge hammer. We told them it would need an engine harness, and they would have to pay. They took it away, replaced the harness and towed it back on Thursday, wouldn't start. Turns out they completely destroyed another connector on the left inner fender that supplies power to the FICM relay, and tried to hold it together with electrical tape. A few wire repairs and a FICM update, and it's back on the road. Number 3, a 2006 E-450 6.8L bus. This one is from the same shop as number 2... was originally in for an oil change, they didn't seem to think that it was important to put oil back in the engine. They ended up replacing the crank-shaft, and has been running rough and stalling ever since (about 2 weeks). The customer got fed up and had it towed into us. The fuel trims were way through the roof, and you could hear a massive vacuum leak. Turns out the upper plenum blue rubber seal had been substituted with RTV. I replaced the seal, and it's all good... I don't know if I'm trying to make a point or not, but these are the shops that we are competing with for business... when we were asking the customers why they didn't come here in the first place, 2 said it was because we were too expensive, but as it turns out, our door rate is less than the indy. rate. As to the third, it was strictly out of convenience. I think it angers me a bit that dealers still have a reputation of being too expensive, and wonder what we have to do to change that. Ahhh... yeah... that feels better. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif

Did the PCM get reflashed by Roush?

Typically any deployed component, components damaged by the deployement (headliners, instrument panel, windshield), the restraint control module (RCM) and clock-spring is what gets replaced around here.

So, I was putting my way into work this morning on the 401, doing my usual 110kph (about 68 mph for my American friends) in my diesel Jetta at about 5 L/100km (around 50 mpg for those south of the border), not giving a shit about the price of fuel, since I hardly use any... but I could not believe how many big SUVs, like Yukons and such... and big pick-up trucks were flying past me at what seems like twice my speed... it just doesn't make much sense to me, as they are using way more fuel, which costs them more, and helps to increase the demand for fuel, which ultimately ends up at the pump... that's all...

Make that 3... all from the same fleet too... and you may imagine, they are quite pissed! They are all bucket trucks that service traffic lights and such, and are to the point that they are worried about losing contracts... management made some calls this week, and apparently there are about 60 dealers in North America waiting on them, and there are NONE built... and they don't know when... so they say...

Didn't come across that way at all.

I guess we're lucky... we punch a seperate ticket and get paid internal...

Personally, I think removing the body to replace fuel injectors is a bit excessive. I have not done too much snooping around the engine compartment of a 2008, but all previous model years were pretty simple to do... just my opinion.

When they were still available with a diesel engine, they were advertising 85 MPG. But for some reason they decided to drop the diesel. One of the local diesel performace shops has one done up to the teeth... scary...

Good... it's about time we have something in writing. I was told about this by an engineer in Oakville about 2 weeks ago. He asked that I tell the parts department to pull them from the shelves... but they wouldn't do it without something in writing.

I dug up an old metal brace, and it works much better for lining up the fitting without twisting.

I know... we've got two on the lot waiting for EDOCs...

I've been working on these things for a few years now. So, I'm pretty up on it... what I am looking forward to is a bit of training on MD Truck, which I would refer to myself as "self-taught" up to now.

Speaking of LCFs... I find it kind of funny that I am enrolled an LCF NMT course next week... I thought NMTs only come out with new models...

I'd think you might have some issues with SYNC.

I did this TSB for the first time yesterday... I replaced the STC and had a d-ring leak, which actually ended up paying more than 06-17-06 did on an Econoline. But, I didn't really care too much for the plastic tools included with the kit to align the fitting. The fitting was twisting the plastic while I was tightening the jam-nut, causing it to not line up perfectly. I was able to make it work, but I think I'm going to try and get my hands on the old metal STC brace and rig up something a little more sturdy.

7.3's are not difficult to pull at all. I would not even consider cab removal on the truck in question.